3 minivan type vehicles which would you choose?

PlatinumGold

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curb weights HP lb/hp
3959 / 203 19.5
4120 / 215 19.16
4655 / 244 19.07


so is the marginal decrease in lb/hp worth the extra weight?
 

Queasy

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Depends on other factors I would think.....like the features the van has and safety ratings.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Syringer
..there's more to life than lb/hp.

obviously. ;)

i'm talking about minivans here.

btw, the first one is the Ford Freestyle, second one Toyota Sienna and the last one Honda Odyssey.

i think i'm gonna go with the Toyota Sienna. my wife is insisting we get a toyota this time.
 

NFS4

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Ford Freestar
Dodge Caravan
Honda Odyssey?

That being said, the only minivan I'll take is a Mazda5
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Syringer
..there's more to life than lb/hp.

obviously. ;)

i'm talking about minivans here.

btw, the first one is the Ford Freestyle, second one Toyota Sienna and the last one Honda Odyssey.

i think i'm gonna go with the Toyota Sienna. my wife is insisting we get a toyota this time.

The Sienna is pretty nice. I like the Odyssey myself though. We ended up with a Grand Caravan though. Roomy and good price.
 

BlackAdam

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Scratch out the Sienna... so you're left with the Freestyle and the Odyssey. I'm not too big of a fan of the Odyssey, so I'd stick with the Freestyle. But then again, it is a FORD!
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Syringer
..there's more to life than lb/hp.

obviously. ;)

i'm talking about minivans here.

btw, the first one is the Ford Freestyle, second one Toyota Sienna and the last one Honda Odyssey.

i think i'm gonna go with the Toyota Sienna. my wife is insisting we get a toyota this time.

The Sienna is pretty nice. I like the Odyssey myself though. We ended up with a Grand Caravan though. Roomy and good price.

there are several reasons i am agreeing to buy a toyota.

1. 8 passenger capacity with the sienna, not many other minvans can do this. also i like the sienna's implementation of it better than the odyssey's.

2. toyota has a better prices than odyssey

3. odyssey is waayyy to heavy.

4. i like the Freestyle myself, i like the look and feel (i've driven it and it drives well). i also like it in the Awd version as well.

but it looks like toyota will win with a good price point, good gas mileage, 8 passengers.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: BlackAdam
Scratch out the Sienna... so you're left with the Freestyle and the Odyssey. I'm not too big of a fan of the Odyssey, so I'd stick with the Freestyle. But then again, it is a FORD!

why scratch out the sienna?

do you know something i don't?
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Doghouse
Screw the Ford.

Get the Toyota.

so ignore it just because it's a ford with no regard for the actual vehicle?

the Freestyles are very very nice vehicles.
 
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Doghouse
Screw the Ford.

Get the Toyota.

so ignore it just because it's a ford with no regard for the actual vehicle?

the Freestyles are very very nice vehicles.

Resale value, reliability and longevity. Fords doesn't have any of that. If you do buy domestic do youself a favor and get the extended warranty. They have more than paid for themselves when I bought domestics.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Depends on other factors I would think.....like the features the van has and safety ratings.

And where it was made. Japan vs USA of course.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Doghouse
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Doghouse
Screw the Ford.

Get the Toyota.

so ignore it just because it's a ford with no regard for the actual vehicle?

the Freestyles are very very nice vehicles.

Resale value, reliability and longevity. Fords doesn't have any of that. If you do buy domestic do youself a favor and get the extended warranty. They have more than paid for themselves when I bought domestics.

i plan on keeping the vehicle for 6 or 7 yrs. we put lots of miles on our vehicles, 25k to 30k per year.

at 120k miles i don't think resale value is going to mean much to me. and besides, i can probably buy the freestar for as much less as i lose in resale value.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Doghouse
Resale value, reliability and longevity. Fords doesn't have any of that. If you do buy domestic do youself a favor and get the extended warranty. They have more than paid for themselves when I bought domestics.
Family's had 3 Explorers. Combined for nearly a half-million miles. Total recalls: 0. The second Explorer was sandwiched between a semi and a Class V motor home (semi stopped, dad stopped, motor home met Explorer at 45 mph because the driver of the motor home wasn't paying attention) and both my father and his passenger walked away from the accident.

Dad replaced the last Explorer (1999 Eddie Bauer, 200,000 miles, gave it to my little sister) with a 2005 Honda Pilot. The Pilot has been in for service more than the Fords, has already been recalled (transmission), and the dash squeeks. Oh yeah, the V6 Pilot gets one whole mpg better mileage than the V8 Explorer, and the Explorer ran fine on regular, the Pilot pings a bit if we don't use Premium.

I've got 85,000 miles on my '95 Lincoln and so far the only issues in the life of the vehicle have been a shock mount and just this weekend the alternator, which I replaced in an hour without needing to put the car on a lift. I figure the Lincoln is good for another 100,000 miles easily. No interior squeeks or rattles and it's still virtually silent. Oh yeah, I also have 280 hp and 285 ft-lbs of torque in a nice, flat curve from just off idle to about 5,800 RPM and get 26-28 mpg on the freeway depending on how much I have in the car and how much I'm using the A/C.

ZV
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Doghouse
Resale value, reliability and longevity. Fords doesn't have any of that. If you do buy domestic do youself a favor and get the extended warranty. They have more than paid for themselves when I bought domestics.
Family's had 3 Explorers. Combined for nearly a half-million miles. Total recalls: 0. The second Explorer was sandwiched between a semi and a Class V motor home (semi stopped, dad stopped, motor home met Explorer at 45 mph because the driver of the motor home wasn't paying attention) and both my father and his passenger walked away from the accident.

Dad replaced the last Explorer (1999 Eddie Bauer, 200,000 miles, gave it to my little sister) with a 2005 Honda Pilot. The Pilot has been in for service more than the Fords, has already been recalled (transmission), and the dash squeeks. Oh yeah, the V6 Pilot gets one whole mpg better mileage than the V8 Explorer, and the Explorer ran fine on regular, the Pilot pings a bit if we don't use Premium.

I've got 85,000 miles on my '95 Lincoln and so far the only issues in the life of the vehicle have been a shock mount and just this weekend the alternator, which I replaced in an hour without needing to put the car on a lift. I figure the Lincoln is good for another 100,000 miles easily. No interior squeeks or rattles and it's still virtually silent. Oh yeah, I also have 280 hp and 285 ft-lbs of torque in a nice, flat curve from just off idle to about 5,800 RPM and get 26-28 mpg on the freeway depending on how much I have in the car and how much I'm using the A/C.

ZV

i have 100k on my ford windstar, not one of fords crown jewels btw, but it hasn't been that bad.

my olds intrigue has been significantly better.

but my experience hasn't turned me off to all fords.

 

NutBucket

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Sorry, gotta vote Honda. Everyone I know that has one loves them.

Besides, we all know Toyotas are for people who hate to drive.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Sorry, gotta vote Honda. Everyone I know that has one loves them.

Besides, we all know Toyotas are for people who hate to drive.

the honda weighs 600 lbs more than my current ford windstar.

it's a very heavy vehicle.

plus it's significantly more expensive. i don't think there is value there.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Ahahahah.. You're asking about minivans, and the only thing you post is lbs and hp. :roll:

i also posted the names of the vehicles about 4 or 5 posts down. ;)

 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Sorry, gotta vote Honda. Everyone I know that has one loves them.

Besides, we all know Toyotas are for people who hate to drive.

the honda weighs 600 lbs more than my current ford windstar.

it's a very heavy vehicle.

plus it's significantly more expensive. i don't think there is value there.

That was why even though I liked the Odyssey we went with the Grand Caravan instead. Even significantly used Odyssey's are expensive.