3-lane highway or 6-lane highway?

silverpig

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There is a highway with 3 lanes northbound and 3 lanes southbound. You call it:

A. A 3-lane highway.
B. A 6-lane highway.


Maybe it's obvious if you say 3-lane highway because your options are either 3 in each direction or 2/1. A 2-lane highway is more ambiguous however. Is it 1 each direction or 2?
 

Ika

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Depends on whether or not there's a divison between the north and southbound lanes. If they're right next to each other, I might say 6 lanes.
 

Cuda1447

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Why does everyone insist on spelling poll wrong? Hell, I even have to consciously think about the way I'm spelling it now, since I've seen it spelled wrong so many times!
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: Evadman
anyone who says 6 lane is wrong.

Agreed. You count lanes starting with the leftmost lane heading in your direction. Lane numbers increase as you head to the right. So, on a '6-lane' highway oriented north/south, the innermost northbound lane is "northbound T1", the middle is "northbound T2", and the 'slow' lane is "northbound T3". Southbound lanes are numbered/named similarly.
 

speg

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I guess six. The highway goes both ways and has six lanes total. Thus, it is a six lane highway.

Do you call a normal road a one lane highway?

Furthermore, why are all the highways named 401, 400, 406, 417, etc... because they've all (originally) got four lanes!
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Evadman
anyone who says 6 lane is wrong.

?
really?
so please explain what you refer to the other high ways as.
3 lane is the only one that is easy to understand what you mean. Because like the OP stated, highways rarely have a center turn lane and by saying 3 lane, to assume it's combined means 1.5 lanes or 1 lane each with center turn lane.
So naturally we'd assume 3 lane each direction.

But what about 2 lane? When you say that, do you mean 2 lanes in a direction? With that, do you ever refer to a TRUE 2-lane highway as 1-lane? That's just... odd sounding.

In Ohio, almost everyone I know uses total lanes, because we have so many smaller highways, with the larger ones far from common and only in the large metro areas.

I tend to mix it up, but only with the large highways.
I use 2 and 4 lane - 4 lane meaning 2 lanes in each direction.
I have actually never had to say 3/6 lanes before in speech, but would likely refer to it as 6.

I've been on one 10-lane in my life, and imagine I'd probably call it an 10-lane highway unless I was referring to it like "wow, this highway had 5 lanes in one direction!", because it was like a shock to me. :p
 

coldmeat

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Originally posted by: speg
I guess six. The highway goes both ways and has six lanes total. Thus, it is a six lane highway.

Do you call a normal road a one lane highway?

Furthermore, why are all the highways named 401, 400, 406, 417, etc... because they've all (originally) got four lanes!

Ya. Highway 17 turns to 417 when the lanes are doubled.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: speg
I guess six. The highway goes both ways and has six lanes total. Thus, it is a six lane highway.

Do you call a normal road a one lane highway?

Furthermore, why are all the highways named 401, 400, 406, 417, etc... because they've all (originally) got four lanes!

Uhh....errr....ummm.....I don't even know where to start.

A) No, a normal road is not a highway at all
B) What in the hell are you talking about with your highway numbers? Don't make me hop on route 5 up to Canada to smack you!
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: speg
Furthermore, why are all the highways named 401, 400, 406, 417, etc... because they've all (originally) got four lanes!

All power to the Hypnotoad!

The two-digit U.S. Routes follow a simple grid, in which odd-numbered routes run generally north to south and even-numbered routes run generally east to west. (U.S. Route 101 is considered two-digit, its first 'digit' being ten.) Numbers generally increase from 1 in the east to 101 in the west and 2 in the north to 98 in the south. Numbers ending in zero or one (and U.S. Route 2[3]), and to a lesser extent in five, were considered main routes in the early numbering, but extensions and truncations have made this distinction largely meaningless; for instance, U.S. Route 6 was until 1964 the longest route (that distinction now belongs to U.S. Route 20). The Interstate System grid, which increases from west to east and south to north, is intentionally opposite from the U.S. grid, to keep identically numbered routes apart and keeping them from being confused.[4]

Three-digit numbers are assigned to spurs of two-digit routes. For instance, U.S. Route 201 splits from U.S. Route 1 at Brunswick, Maine and runs north to Canada. Not all spurs travel in the same direction as their "parents"; some are only connected to their "parents" by other spurs, or not at all, instead only traveling near their "parents". As originally assigned, the first digit of the spurs increased from north to south and east to west along the "parent"; for example, U.S. Route 60 junctioned, from east to west, U.S. Route 160 in Missouri, U.S. Route 260 in Oklahoma, U.S. Route 360 in Texas, and U.S. Route 460 and U.S. Route 560 in New Mexico. As with the two-digit routes, three-digit routes have been added, removed, extended and shortened; the "parent-child" relationship is not always present. Several spurs of the decommissioned U.S. Route 66 still exist, and U.S. Route 191 travels from border to border, while U.S. Route 91 has been largely replaced by Interstate 15.

Several routes approved since 1980 do not follow the pattern:

* U.S. Route 400, approved in 1994, has no "parent".
* U.S. Route 412, approved ca. 1982, is nowhere near U.S. Route 12.
* U.S. Route 425, approved in 1989, is nowhere near U.S. Route 25.

In addition, U.S. Route 163, approved ca. 1971, is nowhere near U.S. Route 63. The short U.S. Route 57, approved ca. 1970, connects to Federal Highway 57 in Mexico, and lies west of former U.S. Route 81.

While AASHTO guidelines specifically prohibit Interstate Highways and U.S. Highways from sharing a number within the same state[5] (which is why there are no Interstates 50 or 60), the initial Interstate numbering approved in 1958 violated this with Interstate 24 and U.S. Route 24 in Illinois and Interstate 40, Interstate 80, U.S. Route 40 and U.S. Route 80 in California. (US 40 and US 80 were removed from California in its 1964 renumbering.) Some recent and proposed Interstates, some of them out-of-place in the grid, also violate this: Interstate 41 and U.S. Route 41 in Wisconsin (which will run concurrently), Interstate 49 and U.S. Route 49 in Arkansas, Interstate 69 and U.S. Route 69 in Texas, and Interstate 74 and U.S. Route 74 in North Carolina (which will run concurrently).
 

Aluvus

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Originally posted by: speg
Furthermore, why are all the highways named 401, 400, 406, 417, etc... because they've all (originally) got four lanes!

You might want to qualify that with all Canadian highways, since an American highway starting with 4 is probably just a bypass. And their name has nothing to do with the number of lanes they have, but merely that bypasses get their numbers by adding a digit to the front of the highway number, and a bypass starting with 4 is just the fourth bypass built on that highway.

I don't have a good answer to the OP's question; I tend to sidestep the issue by explicitly stating that I am refering to total lanes or lanes in one direction.
 

rudeguy

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If there is no median/divider, both directions.

If median/divider is present, each direction.
 

spidey07

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If it's a highway it's 6 lanes. If it's a freeway - it's 3 lanes.
If it's a State Road it's 6 lanes.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Evadman
anyone who says 6 lane is wrong.

Wrong. While you count the lanes from inside to outside, when you count the lanes of a highway, you count ALL the lanes in both directions.

Thus, a highway with 3 lanes in each direction is a 6 lane highway...but each direction will have lanes # 1 (inside "fast" lane) to 3 ("slow" lane)


This must be a mid-west or eastern thing...just like counting the points on a buck.

Out west, a 4 point buck has 4 points on each side of the rack...that'd be an 8 pointer for most folks east of the Rockies...
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: speg

Furthermore, why are all the highways named 401, 400, 406, 417, etc... because they've all (originally) got four lanes!

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The earliest things that I would call "highways" had one lane in each direction, and they're still around and a wonderful way to experience the countryside on a road trip if you don't need the speed of a freeway. When these were numbered, all kinds of numbers were used. Highway 101, Highway 66, Highway 20...everything.

When the interstate system was built, they put more logic into their numbering system. Numbers get higher from west to east and from south to north, and odd numbered interstates are N-S, even numbered are W-E. Where a freeway passes through a city, sometimes there are multiple parallel freeways, which merge back into the main one or disappear once you're back outside of the city. These bypasses add an extra number in the 100s...for example, I-405 parallels I-5 around Seattle, I-290 parallel to I-90 around Chicago.
 

sierrita

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Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Evadman
anyone who says 6 lane is wrong.

This. You only count the lanes in your direction.

Not.

A "two lane highway" is just that. Two lanes, one in each direction.

Next category is four lane, etc.

 

spidey07

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The question is highly problematic.

A highway is not a freeway
A freeway is a highway
A state road is a state road but can also be a highway, but never a freeway
Divided or not a highway is a highway but a freeway is always divided by something until it reaches it's end
 

herm0016

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