3 Israeli settlers convicted for attempted bombing of Arab school

[ThePresence]

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These idiots should burn in hell. With all that's going on there, these bastards decide to drop to the level of the terrorists. I hope they get life in prison.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

I agree. Who cares if Hamas and other terrorist organizations blow up buses full of women and children' two wrongs do not make a right. These guys should burn in hell, I agree. I am so sick of Israelis lashing out against the peaceful Palestinians.


Edit: Something needs to be done to stop these zealots from destroying the Middle East.

 

[tcsenter]

So Israel arrests, prosecutes, and imprisons Israelis found to be plotting attacks against Palestinian children, while Palestinians honor suicide bombers and dance in the streets when a bus load of Israeli children are blown to bits, making no pretense that they believe it is wrong.

But Israel is the 'bad guy'.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Yes, because Israel is just another satellite state for the U.S.A. We sponsor them and now they are resorting to terrorism; therefore, the U.S.A., in a sense, is a state sponsoring terrorism and should be placed on the State Department list as part of the Axis of Evil. Bush is evil!

 

[tcsenter]

Yes, because Israel is just another satellite state for the U.S.A. We sponsor them and now they are resorting to terrorism; therefore, the U.S.A., in a sense, is a state sponsoring terrorism and should be placed on the State Department list as part of the Axis of Evil. Bush is evil!

Doesn't require a whole lot of intelligence, eh? You just gotta tap into some kind of inner-infantile frustration, rechannel it in such a way that completely bypasses the left brain, and voila - Irrational and Content Free Vitriol!

 

[lozina]

I'd like to see evidence of Palestinians "dancing in the street when a bus full of women and children blow up". I could just as easily say Israelis dance in the street when a gunship fires a missile into a crowd of children.

But anyway, there's nothing special about this arrest. I wonder how these settlers will end up? Perhaps a slap on the wrist and sent back to their settlements with larger welfare check payments? Who knows. What I assure you though, is if the current Palestinian authority arrested a few charged with terrorism, you would be saying "well that's not enough" or "oh that's just a token incident in an attmept to project a false image of them acting against terrorism".

 

[VioletAura]

I wonder if the Israeli gov't would bulldoze their homes, kill their families, and target their community leaders as they do to the Palestinians who commit the same acts.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Yes, because Israel is just another satellite state for the U.S.A. We sponsor them and now they are resorting to terrorism; therefore, the U.S.A., in a sense, is a state sponsoring terrorism and should be placed on the State Department list as part of the Axis of Evil. Bush is evil!

Doesn't require a whole lot of intelligence, eh? You just gotta tap into some kind of inner-infantile frustration, rechannel it in such a way that completely bypasses the left brain, and voila - Irrational and Content Free Vitriol!

It's more difficult than it looks, believe me

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: VioletAura
I wonder if the Israeli gov't would bulldoze their homes, kill their families, and target their community leaders as they do to the Palestinians who commit the same acts.

I heard there are celebrations going on in Israel and Bush is offering $25,000/head for more such freedom fighters to step forward.

 

[tcsenter]

I'd like to see evidence of Palestinians "dancing in the street when a bus full of women and children blow up". I could just as easily say Israelis dance in the street when a gunship fires a missile into a crowd of children.

lol! Errr...no you couldn't. Where are the arrests of Hamas by the Palestinian Security Force that was funded, armed, and trained at the expense of the United States? When was the last 'suicide plot' the Palestinian Security Force 'disrupted'? When has the Palestinian Security Force ever cracked-down on Hamas instead of fundamentally failing its material obligations and promises?

Isreal military operations target militant terrorists and sometimes bystanders are unintentionally killed. Palestinian terrorists target civilian men, women, and children. Not only does every sane person understand the difference, but nobody disputes the well-known fact that Palestinians honor the suicide bombers and their killing of civilian men, women, and children...well...except you apparently. The earth is round, too, you know?

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

I'd like to see evidence of Palestinians "dancing in the street when a bus full of women and children blow up". I could just as easily say Israelis dance in the street when a gunship fires a missile into a crowd of children.

lol! Errr...no you couldn't. Where are the arrests of Hamas by the Palestinian Security Force that was funded, armed, and trained at the expense of the United States? When was the last 'suicide plot' the Palestinian Security Force 'disrupted'? When has the Palestinian Security Force ever cracked-down on Hamas instead of fundamentally failing its material obligations and promises?

Isreal military operations target militant terrorists and sometimes bystanders are unintentionally killed. Palestinian terrorists target civilian men, women, and children. Not only does every sane person understand the difference, but nobody disputes the well-known fact that Palestinians honor the suicide bombers and their killing of civilian men, women, and children...well...except you apparently. The earth is round, too, you know?

Just as I thought... no evidence, just a little dance. So then let me ask you this, why do you feel you need to exaggerate something so grotesquely? The terrorist bombings themselves are bad enough, aren't they? Or do you need to add more spice to promote prejudism against Palestinians in general?

 

[tcsenter]

It's more difficult than it looks, believe me

That's because its still not completely bypassing the left brain, which is the area that deals with critical scrutiny, logic, and reason. Your left brain catches it, sends up red 'idiocy' flags, then tries to prevent you from hitting "Reply". You have to force yourself to override your left brain and hit "Reply", which is why its so hard.

When it completely bypasses all faculties of scrutiny, logic, and reason, it becomes a cinch.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

That is right. We don't hold the Saudis responsible for terrorist who have lived in, and have links to, Saudi Arabia; why, then, should we hold the Palestinian people accountable for bombers like Hamas? This is typical American hypocrisy. If the Palestinians had oil, you would be marching to a different tune.

 

[beyoku]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Yes, because Israel is just another satellite state for the U.S.A. We sponsor them and now they are resorting to terrorism; therefore, the U.S.A., in a sense, is a state sponsoring terrorism and should be placed on the State Department list as part of the Axis of Evil. Bush is evil!

one thing also to remeber is that the IDF / isreali army is controlled by who?
on the other had hamas and terrorist orgs have no ties with any state sponsored org.
So we see attack and retaliation over and over. After a while there is not way to tell WHO is retaliating and WHO is attacking.
it really dosent matter. its funny they keep telling the "palestinian authority" to take control over hamas but how can they.?

 

[ChicagoMaroon]

Originally posted by: lozina
I'd like to see evidence of Palestinians "dancing in the street when a bus full of women and children blow up". I could just as easily say Israelis dance in the street when a gunship fires a missile into a crowd of children.

ASK AND YE SHALL RECEIVE

There are of course many more examples, just search say, the AP Newswire.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: ChicagoMaroon

Originally posted by: lozina
I'd like to see evidence of Palestinians "dancing in the street when a bus full of women and children blow up". I could just as easily say Israelis dance in the street when a gunship fires a missile into a crowd of children.

ASK AND YE SHALL RECEIVE

There are of course many more examples, just search say, the AP Newswire.

LoL, with the extremely high standards that have been expected lately by people asking others to support a claim, this is an absolute joke. Thanks for the comic relief though.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I agree. Who cares if Hamas and other terrorist organizations blow up buses full of women and children' two wrongs do not make a right. These guys should burn in hell, I agree. I am so sick of Israelis lashing out against the peaceful Palestinians.


Edit: Something needs to be done to stop these zealots from destroying the Middle East.

Umm, there is no bigger supporter of Israel than I. This post was not about Hamas at all, it was about these morons. These guys undermine everything Israel is trying to accomplish.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: VioletAura
I wonder if the Israeli gov't would bulldoze their homes, kill their families, and target their community leaders as they do to the Palestinians who commit the same acts.

These guys never actually did anything. They were PLANNING.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: VioletAura
I wonder if the Israeli gov't would bulldoze their homes, kill their families, and target their community leaders as they do to the Palestinians who commit the same acts.

These guys never actually did anything. They were PLANNING.

VA's point was that even if the Israelis had managed to pull of the attack, there would be no reprocussions at the level felt by Palestinians, which is true. I mean, remember the guy who walked into a mosque and gunned down dozens of people a few years ago? Didn't they build him a monument? Both sides have sickos, there are people in the Knesset who say things like "we should kill 10 Palestinians for every Israeli", point is, you will never hear anything that remotely demonizes Israel in the US and if you hear it from another source, you will dismiss it as Arab propaganda.

PS: This post was not directed only at The Presence, but at all Israel supporters.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: VioletAura
I wonder if the Israeli gov't would bulldoze their homes, kill their families, and target their community leaders as they do to the Palestinians who commit the same acts.

These guys never actually did anything. They were PLANNING.

VA's point was that even if the Israelis had managed to pull of the attack, there would be no reprocussions at the level felt by Palestinians, which is true. I mean, remember the guy who walked into a mosque and gunned down dozens of people a few years ago? Didn't they build him a monument? Both sides have sickos, there are people in the Knesset who say things like "we should kill 10 Palestinians for every Israeli", point is, you will never hear anything that remotely demonizes Israel in the US and if you hear it from another source, you will dismiss it as Arab propaganda.

PS: This post was not directed only at The Presence, but at all Israel supporters.

"They" who built the monument were a some settlers, not the Israeli government. As a matter of fact, the government recently tore down the monument on the grounds that there cannot be any memorials to terrorists in Israel.

 

[VioletAura]

Zionist terrorism against Palestinians is nothing new. Terrorism was used first by the Israelis on the Arabs and the British. They were the first ones to blow up buses and hotels full of innocent civilians. If it worked for the Zionist why not then have the Palestinians use it as well? Payback is is b*tch. Israel is a terrorist state with its roots in terrorist acts and is now getting what it deserves from Hamas and others.

If you don't believe the part on zionist terrorist killing innocent people the same way Hamas and others do, search for Haganah or Irgun.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: VioletAura
Zionist terrorism against Palestinians is nothing new. Terrorism was used first by the Israelis on the Arabs and the British. They were the first ones to blow up buses and hotels full of innocent civilians. If it worked for the Zionist why not then have the Palestinians use it as well? Payback is is b*tch. Israel is a terrorist state with its roots in terrorist acts and is now getting what it deserves from Hamas and others.

If you don't believe the part on zionist terrorist killing innocent people the same way Hamas and others do, search for Haganah or Irgun.

The Haganah, Irgun and the Stern gang targeted British military forces, not innocent civillians. Get your facts right. When they blew up the King David Hotel (which was British Army Headquarters at the time), they PHONED first to warn them to get out, but they decided that they wont be dictated to. Because of that, alot of people died. But they did NOT target civillians. Let's try to know what we are talking about before we post, okay?

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: VioletAura
Zionist terrorism against Palestinians is nothing new. Terrorism was used first by the Israelis on the Arabs and the British. They were the first ones to blow up buses and hotels full of innocent civilians. If it worked for the Zionist why not then have the Palestinians use it as well? Payback is is b*tch. Israel is a terrorist state with its roots in terrorist acts and is now getting what it deserves from Hamas and others.

If you don't believe the part on zionist terrorist killing innocent people the same way Hamas and others do, search for Haganah or Irgun.

the key difference is that jewish terrorists have always been looked down upon by the mainstream population. many jews worked with the british to stop the activity of the irgun and constantly condemned their actions. similary today, the israeli's actually crack down on extremists within their ranks. these people will not receive light sentences because israel knows what the reprocussions of their actions would be. palestinians suicide bombers have their pictures pasted all over their towns and their funerals are huge celebrations.

edit: wording

 

[kage69]

Yep, those guys proved that being a scumbag terrorist doesn't rely on ethnicity: I hope they rot in jail for the rest of their pathetic lives.

I hear a lot of people comparing Israeli reprisals to the bombings of Hamas or the AA Martyr's Brigade. To me, there is tangible difference between a gunship lobbin a Hellfire missile at a car carrying terrorist leadership and Hamas detonating a bomb laced with rat poison on a bus or in a shopping mall. I don't condone any civilian deaths when Abu whatever's car takes an HE round up the tailpipe, but there is something intrinsicly evil about a.) going after civilians from the get go, and b.) making sure whomever gets hurt runs a good chance of bleeding to death within minutes.

Kudos to the IDF for catching these arseholes before any more kids got gibbed.

 

[VioletAura]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: VioletAura
Zionist terrorism against Palestinians is nothing new. Terrorism was used first by the Israelis on the Arabs and the British. They were the first ones to blow up buses and hotels full of innocent civilians. If it worked for the Zionist why not then have the Palestinians use it as well? Payback is is b*tch. Israel is a terrorist state with its roots in terrorist acts and is now getting what it deserves from Hamas and others.

If you don't believe the part on zionist terrorist killing innocent people the same way Hamas and others do, search for Haganah or Irgun.

The Haganah, Irgun and the Stern gang targeted British military forces, not innocent civillians. Get your facts right. When they blew up the King David Hotel (which was British Army Headquarters at the time), they PHONED first to warn them to get out, but they decided that they wont be dictated to. Because of that, alot of people died. But they did NOT target civillians. Let's try to know what we are talking about before we post, okay?

These were not attacks on british soldiers (terrorist attacks on british soldiers isn't right anyway):

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939 During this period, Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

December ll, 1947 Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947 Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947 Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack

December 29, 1947 Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi

That is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure these came up during your in-dept study of zionist terrorist groups and you accidentally forgot about them.