3 Games on a Celeron G1840/HD 7850.

[eton975]

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Does surprisingly well, really, but it's a powerful Haswell 2.8Ghz dual-core with 2MB L3 cache.

Probably one of the most underrated CPUs, because for the money, it destroys the wimpy Jaguars (Athlon 5150/5350). And yet I see people recommend those over the 'crappy Celeron'!

 

[Sweepr]

Indeed, cheap Haswell Celerons pack quite a punch. Later this year Skylake models should give the low-end another boost.

 

[cbn]

We had discussion of Athlon 5350 vs. Celeron/Pentium in this thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2400051&highlight=entry+level+gamer

(And for the Lego game, that exact same scene used in the video was used.)

 

[eton975]

We had discussion of Athlon 5350 vs. Celeron/Pentium in this thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2400051&highlight=entry+level+gamer

(And for the Lego game, that exact same scene used in the video was used.)

Where's the actual benchmark? The guy just says it was faster on the Celeron's IGP.

Wow, MiddleOfTheRoad is defending the 5350 as an SOC - ignoring that said SOC costs more than a much more powerful G1840 and it that will be in a desktop - where the power savings of the 5350 SOC are much less important.

To use their analogy, it's like saying that a Corolla, priced more than a F150, performing much worse than the F150, is better because it's slightly smaller and uses slightly less fuel.

 

[jji7skyline]

Where's the actual benchmark? The guy just says it was faster on the Celeron's IGP.

Wow, MiddleOfTheRoad is defending the 5350 as an SOC - ignoring that said SOC costs more than a much more powerful G1840 and it that will be in a desktop - where the power savings of the 5350 SOC are much less important.

To use their analogy, it's like saying that a Corolla, priced more than a F150, performing much worse than the F150, is better because it's slightly smaller and uses slightly less fuel.

I'd argue that a Corolla is a better 'car' than an F150.

 

[TheELF]

Bf4 64 player multi shanghai dx11 on haswell G1820



Crysis 3 Welcome to the jungle G1820


Gta 5 on haswell G1820


(No money for a good vga )

 

[eton975]

Bf4 64 player multi shanghai dx11 on haswell G1820



Crysis 3 Welcome to the jungle G1820


Gta 5 on haswell G1820


(No money for a good vga )

I'd look on EBay for some used graphics cards. You can score things like GTX 460s and HD 5870s for ~$50.

 

[iSkylaker]

Interesting, I recently ordered few used low-end PC parts to play around. AMD Athlon 5150, AM1 board and a GTX 750Ti, should be here probably next week. I will test some games in it (like BF4 and GTA V) to see how it go against your OP. GTX 750Ti is like a GTX 650Ti Boost which was the HD 7850's competitor. Can't wait.

The only thing I'm worried is, however, I just realized the AM1 board I got has a PCIEx4 port which will probably make a worse bottleneck.

 

[eton975]

The only thing I'm worried is, however, I just realized the AM1 board I got has a PCIEx4 port which will probably make a worse bottleneck.

I think that's a limitation of all AM1 boards really.

 

[myocardia]

I'd look on EBay for some used graphics cards. You can score things like GTX 460s and HD 5870s for ~$50.

He didn't say he had no video card, he said he had no money for a good one. He has an R7 240, which I'm sure is as fast as either of those cards, but has DX11, which they don't have. His video card is actually faster than his CPU, since he's having to cap his framerate in GTA V.

 

[eton975]

He didn't say he had no video card, he said he had no money for a good one. He has an R7 240, which I'm sure is as fast as either of those cards, but has DX11, which they don't have. His video card is actually faster than his CPU, since he's having to cap his framerate in GTA V.

Actually, they do have DX11 support. The GTX 460 and 5870 are definitely faster than the R7 240. He does seem to be running the game at a low resolution, which usually means that the CPU has a larger impact than the graphics card.

GTA V's texture-loading system is really thoughtful and stupid at the same time.

 

[myocardia]

Actually, they do have DX11 support.

I hadn't realized that the 5870 supported DX11, since it was released so much earlier than the GTX 4x0s, I had just assumed that it didn't.

The GTX 460 and 5870 are definitely faster than the R7 240. He does seem to be running the game at a low resolution, which usually means that the CPU has a larger impact than the graphics card.

My point all along was that his video card was faster than his CPU, at least at the resolution that he's gaming at, specifically in GTAV. In the comments on his youtube video, he said that he has to cap the framerate, or he gets the same pauses that people with the much faster (when overclocked) G3258 get, when they run unlimited framerates with faster cards at higher resolutions. Hopefully for him, he's using a CRT monitor.

 

[TheELF]

Hopefully for him, he's using a CRT monitor.

Dual crt actually,streaming TV through kodi while gaming,it's less demanding then recording.

 

[myocardia]

Dual crt actually,streaming TV through kodi while gaming,it's less demanding then recording.

Nice. As eton975 said, if you could somehow grab a more powerful card, you would be able to raise your in-game settings a considerable amount, while raising your resolution some. For instance, you'd likely be able to run mostly high/medium settings in GTAV, at 1280x1024, if you had say, a GTX 750 non-Ti. You'd still have to cap it at 30 FPS, but it would be a noticeable increase in image quality. If you like AMD cards more, I believe the R7 250x is roughly as fast as the GTX 750. Don't quote me on that, though. I don't know an awful lot about the cheaper AMD cards.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

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Does surprisingly well, really, but it's a powerful Haswell 2.8Ghz dual-core with 2MB L3 cache.

Probably one of the most underrated CPUs, because for the money, it destroys the wimpy Jaguars (Athlon 5150/5350). And yet I see people recommend those over the 'crappy Celeron'!

Well, there are two kinds of Celerons, see. The good ones, like you have, and the crappy ones that are based on the Atom.

 

[waltchan]

Well, there are two kinds of Celerons, see. The good ones, like you have, and the crappy ones that are based on the Atom.

There's currently three Celeron power levels I mentioned in "Downgraded to a Celeron" thread:

1. Embedded BGA dual/quad-core Silvermont Bay Trail: (Celeron J1800/J1900)

2. Socketed LGA single-core w/ hyperthreading: (Celeron G470)

3. Socketed LGA dual-core: (Celeron G1840/G1850)

#2 is the forgotten one, last one released on 2013, and Intel reserves the right to release another single-core with 2 hyperthreadings (4-threads in one core) at anytime.

 

[TheELF]

Nice. As eton975 said, if you could somehow grab a more powerful card, you would be able to raise your in-game settings a considerable amount, while raising your resolution some.

Don't I know it,as I said ,no money because with anything more powerful I would probably have to get a new psu as well to replace my ancient flaky 350w one.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Nice. As eton975 said, if you could somehow grab a more powerful card, you would be able to raise your in-game settings a considerable amount, while raising your resolution some. For instance, you'd likely be able to run mostly high/medium settings in GTAV, at 1280x1024, if you had say, a GTX 750 non-Ti. You'd still have to cap it at 30 FPS, but it would be a noticeable increase in image quality. If you like AMD cards more, I believe the R7 250x is roughly as fast as the GTX 750. Don't quote me on that, though. I don't know an awful lot about the cheaper AMD cards.

R7 250x is a rebranded HD7770, which is the card I have. I believe the GTX 750 is slightly faster. I havent tried GTA V or some of the other recent more demanding games, but the only game I havent been able to play at 1080p decently has been Witcher 3. I definitely would say GT 750Ti or R7 260x are the minimum for 1080p today if you want to play all the latest titles at 30+ fps.

Edit: we are getting off topic here, as this is cpu forum, but the GTX 750/750Ti should run on a 350 watt PSU if it is decent at all. Neither requires a 6 pin supplementary power connector, except a few factory overclocked 750Ti models.

 

[ShintaiDK]

People easy get fooled by Kabini/Atom SoCs and prescripted benchmarks.

Soneone tried to claim Tomb Raider for example was playable on a 2Ghz Kabini with a GTX680, getting 53FPS.

A 800Mhz Haswell scores 74FPS with HD7950 CF. Even better than the Kabini.
For reference the Haswell at 4900Mhz scores 104FPS.

Now the problem, the 800Mhz only scores 22FPS in actual gameplay. Again for reference, the 4900Mhz Haswell scores 105FPS.

I think we can all imagine where the 2Ghz Kabini ends.

Dont get cheated by prescripted benchmarks in terms of CPU performance.