3 cpu/mobo combos: which one?

[techiecool]

i have been doing some research and have tried to narrow down what i want. i am not yet down to specific components.

1. p4 2.4 and cheap motherboard (none dual channel)
2. amd 2200 and nforce2
3. p4 2.0 and good motherboard

which combo yields good value? i would love to keep the combo under $200. also does the extra 60F that the amd's run cause any problems.

 

[Bartman39]

AMD 2100+ "B" & Nforce2 (prefer 8RDA+)

 

[touchmyichi]

i agree with bartman

 

[Duvie]

At less then 200 bucks that 1) option would have been about impossible without buying used parts....

I say get #1 and oc it to near 3ghz which you wont get near with the 2100+xp...trust me!!!

 

[techiecool]

duvie,

actually Fry's has a cpu/mobo combo (2.4 and ecs) for $169. i can't recall the exact ecs mobo model though. i am sure the mobo isn't that great and that's why i qualified option 1 as a cheap mobo. for my use, i probably won't overclock.

 

[amcdonald]

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
i agree with bartman

 

[rogue1979]

Originally posted by: Duvie
At less then 200 bucks that 1) option would have been about impossible without buying used parts....

I say get #1 and oc it to near 3ghz which you wont get near with the 2100+xp...trust me!!!

Seems like most 2100+ t-bred "B" cpu's are hitting 2400MHz on air these days. That isn't close to near 3.0GHz P4 speeds?

 

[Blain]

Here you go! Now get it and overclock the snot out of it.

Or if you're "anti-Abit" go for This Soltek combo. The board looks like it can OC like a banshee.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Get the combo Blain suggested or just buy the Abit NF7-S 1.2 and a separate 2100+ xp.

 

[LouPoir]

XP2100 B and nForce board. Best bang for the buck

Lou

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: rogue1979

Originally posted by: Duvie
At less then 200 bucks that 1) option would have been about impossible without buying used parts....

I say get #1 and oc it to near 3ghz which you wont get near with the 2100+xp...trust me!!!

Seems like most 2100+ t-bred "B" cpu's are hitting 2400MHz on air these days. That isn't close to near 3.0GHz P4 speeds?

OK...you show me your list and I will show you how many ppl doing 3 to 3.5ghz off of 2.4bs.....I think most is pushing it...

Do you ever promote INtel??? I mean I can find many threads I have said AMD for but you never look at anything else...Pisses me off a bit!!!

Edit: I see some 2400mhz and some 2300mhz...either way you look at it they are non barton chips so at 2400mhz that would be using the old amd pr rating (non barton) would be equivalent to 3000+ xp which still would have equaled a 3.06ghz non HT cpu. Now take that and the fact many are taking the 2.4b to 3ghz at default (as of late) and getting to 3.24ghz like me with over pc1066 rdram numbers with good ddr. remember he will need good ddr to get a lot out of that chip as well so that cost would be a toss up. Now toss in the fact quite a few are running DCDDR mobos and smoking 33%+ over the top of pc1066 numbers in bandwidth and running 720+fsb like me and distance grows....


My system:

2.4b ($164.00 @ newegg)
albatron Px845PEV Pro ($82.00@newegg)

512mb PC3000 Corsair (can find it for $144.00)

get a new multi vid cpu like pastorjay and you may hit 185+fsb at default and 200fsb a possibility...

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: amcdonald

Originally posted by: touchmyichi
i agree with bartman

i agree with amcdonald

...T-Bred B just simply the best deal ever

 

[rogue1979]

Originally posted by: Duvie
I say get #1 and oc it to near 3ghz which you wont get near with the 2100+xp...trust me!!!

Jeeeeezzzz! What a reaction, what gives?

I simply asked a question. You said near 3GHz. Here is a link showing the average overclocked speed of a 2100+ t-bred at 2318MHz, and this includes the first batches. link So like I said, most of the newer ones are hitting 2400MHz.

Originally posted by: Duvie
I see some 2400mhz and some 2300mhz...either way you look at it they are non barton chips so at 2400mhz that would be using the old amd pr rating (non barton) would be equivalent to 3000+ xp

I don't get it, you just contradicted yourself! List time I checked a 3000+ was at least equal to a 3.0GHz P4. (an overclocked 2.4 won't have hyperthreading)
Now it might be true that the 2.4 usually does better than near 3GHz, but that's not what you said.

Originally posted by: Duvie
Now toss in the fact quite a few are running DCDDR mobos and smoking 33%+ over the top of pc1066 numbers in bandwidth and running 720+fsb like me and distance grows....

He's talking about an Nforce2 motherboard. CPU and motherboard would be well within his $200 budget. I dare say that an Nforce2 motherboard running 400MHz DDR is a more than worthy platform.

No need to get all defensive and p!ssed off.

I guess maybe I should mention some of the results people are getting with the newer 1700+ 309 cpu.

I don't have anything against Intel. I just don't like the fact that there isn't a lower clocked P4 you can buy for $50-$90 and overclock to much higher speeds. If the 2.4GHz P4 was $90 like the 2100+ t-bred, I would certainly buy one. I also don't like the fact that the Intel .13 micron die is so fragile to extra voltage. I think it has been long enough to safely assume the AMD .13 micron die is much more robust.

Duvie, you have a very nice P4 overclock and I respect the fact that you like Intel. I prefer AMD, I am not trying to make any enemies here. I really think you are overreacting big time, I apologize if my question offended you.