3.0 GHz quad-core Clovertown is out...

[Eug Wanker]

As some of you guys already know, Apple has announced 8-core 3 GHz Mac Pros, but the interesting part is that (as expected) they are using two 3 GHz Clovertown processors.

Opt for the 8-core Mac Pro and you get the power of two Quad-Core Intel Xeon ?Clovertown? processors running at 3.0GHz. Or choose a quad-core Mac Pro featuring two Dual-Core Intel Xeon ?Woodcrest? processors and decide how fast they fly: 2.0GHz, 2.66GHz, or 3.0GHz. At 3.0GHz, the quad-core Mac Pro runs up to 2x faster than the Power Mac G5 Quad.

I can't find these anywhere. In fact, these X5365 chips aren't even listed on Intel's website yet. Despite this, Apple says these machines are shipping within 3 to 5 days.

So, did Apple get to sell these before anyone else or what? Have any of you seen these chips anywhere else for sale? I checked Dell's website and I see nothing.

EDIT:

Nobody else has them, because Apple is using a limited production Clovertown.

"We are indeed shipping a 3.0GHz Xeon version [and] expect to see faster gigahertz speeds for our high-end Extreme PCs very soon, too," Bill Kircos, wrote in an e-mail to eWeek. "For now, the product is in limited production and Apple has chosen to adopt it. We will introduce another 3.0GHz Xeon SKU [Stock Keeping Unit] later on as well."

 

[JonnyBlaze]

This website says they wernt supposed to be released until q307.


http://tinyurl.com/228a3r

 

[JackPack]

These seem to be 150W processors.

It works for Apple because they're not making servers, but for everyone else, "150W" and "rack-optimized configuration" does not sound good. Intel will likely release a proper version (120W) of the 3.0/1333 Clovertown later this year.

 

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
This website says they wernt supposed to be released until q307.

http://tinyurl.com/228a3r

That's what some other sites said too, which is why I'm wondering. Apple is releasing them in "3-5 business days".

Originally posted by: JackPack
These seem to be 150W processors.

It works for Apple because they're not making servers, but for everyone else, "150W" and "rack-optimized configuration" does not sound good. Intel will likely release a proper version (120W) of the 3.0/1333 Clovertown later this year.

Where does it say 150 Watts?

 

[JackPack]

Originally posted by: Eug Wanker
Where does it say 150 Watts?

Look at Mr. Demerjian's article on The Inq.

If these were "normal" 120W Clovertowns, Intel's PR machine would be working overtime, with the standard drawer statements indicating how the Xeon is the best performance/watt, unmatched quad-core performance, etc.

In short, these are almost certainly boutique parts and not the same as the ones launching in Q3. Otherwise, there would be a heck of a lot more fanfare.

 

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by: JackPack

Originally posted by: Eug Wanker
Where does it say 150 Watts?

Look at Mr. Demerjian's article on The Inq.

If these were "normal" 120W Clovertowns, Intel's PR machine would be working overtime, with the standard drawer statements indicating how the Xeon is the best performance/watt, unmatched quad-core performance, etc.

In short, these are almost certainly boutique parts and not the same as the ones launching in Q3. Otherwise, there would be a heck of a lot more fanfare.

eWeek: Apple cut a special deal for limited production of 3 GHz Clovertowns before everyone else got them

"We are indeed shipping a 3.0GHz Xeon version [and] expect to see faster gigahertz speeds for our high-end Extreme PCs very soon, too," Bill Kircos, wrote in an e-mail to eWeek. "For now, the product is in limited production and Apple has chosen to adopt it. We will introduce another 3.0GHz Xeon SKU [Stock Keeping Unit] later on as well."

The 150 Watt guesstimate could be correct.

 

[JackPack]

I'm not surprised. Who the heck besides Apple would want 150W?

Nobody adopted Tulsa @ 150W.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Originally posted by: JackPack
I'm not surprised. Who the heck besides Apple would want 150W?

Nobody adopted Tulsa @ 150W.

2x 150

 

[Eug Wanker]

Intel in Italy simplly calls it the X5365, not some special chip. Maybe it isn't a higher wattage version after all.

 

[JackBurton]

All I'm waiting for is the MacBook Pro with an SSD drive. I just need at least a 64GB drive in one by the end of the year.

 

[JackPack]

Originally posted by: Eug Wanker
Intel in Italy simplly calls it the X5365, not some special chip. Maybe it isn't a higher wattage version after all.

Actions speak louder than words.

If these really were production X5365 (120W) parts, where's the Intel press-release and fanfare? Is Intel ashamed of being first with quad-core and the first to reach the 3 GHz milestone?

Or could it be that these are higher-wattage parts? And Intel doesn't want the 150W figure to be associated with Clovertown? Perhaps they would rather wait a little while so they can announce the more competitve 120W parts?

 

[Eug Wanker]

^^^ It also could be that yields for 120 Watt parts are not high enough yet for mass production, and therefore cost is significantly higher, if you want them (or else Intel is just being really nice to Apple).

It could also be a bit of both. Perhaps some 120 Watt parts are available, but Apple is getting some say 140 Watt parts too, and is using them all for their Mac Pros.