Rakehellion
Lifer
- Jan 15, 2013
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Forget Tupac vs Biggie. What the fuck happened to rap in general? Back in the day some of the songs were actually about telling a story through their art. Now it's just computer generated bullshit where every other word is a racial slur or curse word. Old school rap wasn't clean, but they had a real message to convey like "look how terrible life is in ghetto" or "life as a poor black kid is hard." Now it's "money, bitches, money, bitches, fuck, fuck, fuck, money, money, bitches, hos" and the retarded masses eat it up.
The genre got too popular too fast and was rapidly commercialized.
Back in the early days, I recall that the rap audience was mostly white frat boys. I never really figured out what rap offered rich suburban kids; I guess the best rebellion one could by at the mall.It's called pop music and it's 99% shit in general.
Back in the day, you'd get your ass kicked calling a rapper pop, now you have Juicy-J rapping with Katy Perry. D:
Ok, if you do not like rap, fine, take a hike. But if you can appreciate this music to any extent, I'm interested in your opinion.
Biggie only put out two albums. Most of his lyrics were vain and about bragging. Although he was skilled with creating these lyrics, the content wasn't very deep or especially poetic.
2Pac on the other end was a political and poetic force. Meaning behind most of his lyrics in addition the superior production of his music. All Eyez on Me, easily the great rap album of all time. All this and I'm ignoring his posthumous releases because he was not alive to supervise the production.
My favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc9HAE2QEQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX5VCY28_Xo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vN85NX6-vk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpntYM4wcAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh9S4vLDDOI
Intellectually and musically superior, how can anyone, besides an East Coast fanboy, say Biggie was better? This is akin to a modern AMD fanboy ignoring processor bench results.
As far as greatest lyrcist, I wouldn't go with either. Talib Kweli takes that. And best album is Only Built 4 Cuban Linx/.
Rakim greatest lyricist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TN-kDEKxF0
Illmatic greatest album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXBFG2vsyCM
Yes, much better. Fucking love Kool Keith!
KT
Close number 2 for me.Rakim greatest lyricist
Illmatic greatest album
Yeah Rakim was no joke.
It was okay, but not even top 5, IMO.
ITT: Quebert proves once again, his tastes as so terrible they deserve to never be spoken. Neither make the top 50? Please list 10 better rappers than either.
I'm not sure I'd put either in my top 10, as much as I love both 2Pac and Biggie. They'd be right on the bubble I think. Off the top of my head I'd pick these guys over both:
Rakim
Ice-T
KRS One
Eazy E
Run
Kool Keith
Scarface
Nas
Erick Sermon
I've been listening to rap since Rapper's Delight (actually own the 12") and I never heard of Kool Keith. Was he very popular?
