2Pac vs Biggie: How could anyone possibly say biggie was better?

[andylawcc]

Or "Shorty Wanna Be a Thug" or "Me Against the World" or "Keep Ya Head Up"? That's just crazy talk. Honestly, anyone who doesn't like the song "Me Against the World" doesn't like rap music, period. That's like calling yourself a film buff and hating on the Godfather. It makes no sense.

well Godfather II was kinda a long drag.

 

[WT]

Wait, the one with the fucking Bruce Hornsby sample? Yeah, nah. D:

KT

Yea well, that's just like .. your opinion, man. :hmm:

2Pac over Biggie by a coun'ry mile:

'I wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto' is urban poetry, rivaled only by Ice Cube's 'Today was a Good Day' for my favorite rap song.

 

[KeithTalent]

Or "Shorty Wanna Be a Thug" or "Me Against the World" or "Keep Ya Head Up"? That's just crazy talk. Honestly, anyone who doesn't like the song "Me Against the World" doesn't like rap music, period. That's like calling yourself a film buff and hating on the Godfather. It makes no sense.

Meh, was listening to rap/hip-hop before 2Pac and have been listening to it well after. I've never liked his stuff and I never will; I just don't like the beats or music. Not saying he can't rap, of course he can, but I do not like any of his songs.

I just don't understand. these lyrics bro - they remain true 20 years later.

That's fine, does not mean I want to listen to it...

KT

 

[Ns1]

That's fine, does not mean I want to listen to it...

KT

<insert mean words here>

 

[Bird222]

Meh, was listening to rap/hip-hop before 2Pac and have been listening to it well after. I've never liked his stuff and I never will; I just don't like the beats or music. Not saying he can't rap, of course he can, but I do not like any of his songs.



That's fine, does not mean I want to listen to it...

KT

What's the first rap you remember hearing?

 

[KeithTalent]

What's the first rap you remember hearing?

Paid in Full was the first full rap album I owned and it's still fucking awesome.

KT

Edit: heard? I'm sure I'd heard a bunch of other stuff before that, but that was the first album I actually owned as a full album.

 

[IronWing]

What's the first rap you remember hearing?

Blondie - Rapture

 

[Bird222]

I've been listening to rap since Rapper's Delight (actually own the 12") and I never heard of Kool Keith. Was he very popular?

 

[Jodell88]

I never understood the comparison between them. Lots of rappers have great songs that are better than Tupac's or Biggie's IMO.

 

[QueBert]

Both are very overrated people who put either on their top 10, I scratch my head. Everyone likes different shit, but I wouldn't put either even on my top 50. Out of the 2 I like Pac better.

 

[Superself]

Biggie was the better lyricist. His style was always evolving and he could adapt to anyone's style....Notorious Thugs??

Tupac was just a better poet.

 

[JMapleton]

Biggie was the better lyricist. His style was always evolving and he could adapt to anyone's style....Notorious Thugs??

Tupac was just a better poet.

Some would argue the better poet is the better lyricist. The intellectual would appreciate the poet more.

 

[Superself]

Some would argue the better poet is the better lyricist. The intellectual would appreciate the poet more.

Those who make that argument would be wrong. Poet does not equate to better lyricist.

Tupac was a gifted poet and a good rapper. A great lyricist he was not.

 

[amicold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlDBi0cyIA

PS Biggie

 

[madoka]

What's the first rap you remember hearing?

For me it was Rapper's Delight.

I also remember watching Public Enemy when they debuted on Soul Train. The audience did not understand rap back then and literally booed them off the stage. But I thought they were incredible, so I immediately ran out and bought Yo! Bum Rush the Show that day.

 

[pcgeek11]

Where is the option that they both suck?

 

[twinrider1]

One was in Digital Underground. The other loses this poll.

 

[zinfamous]

Wait, the one with the fucking Bruce Hornsby sample? Yeah, nah. D:

KT

what's this about Hornsby hate?

remind me to sucker punch you when we meet up ~1 week from now.

 

[zinfamous]

If I did pick one it would be Biggie. West coast rap always has that more jarring beat to it and I've never liked it. NYC has always been the hometown of the best of rap imo. Wu-tang, RUN DMC, Nas, Kool Keith etc.

very true. HipHop never really made it out to the west coast. fuck all of that Cali bullshit, tbh.

(..except The Pharcyde...:wub: those guys. But they always thought they were East coast, so that's cool)

 

[zinfamous]

Where is the option that they both suck?

that button is in your janitor's closet, at Google HQ.

 

[Grooveriding]

I've been listening to rap since Rapper's Delight (actually own the 12") and I never heard of Kool Keith. Was he very popular?

Kool Keith has more of a cult following than mass notoriety. He also does a lot under different pseudonyms; Dr. Doom, Dr. Octogon, Black Elvis and Kool Keith. He was part of the Ultramagnetic MCs, if you've heard of them. He's certainly flown under the radar of widespread popularity and the guy is pretty out there if you ever see him interviewed, weird dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yin3ReQKDes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKeAtYia-N8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHIEWz9agw4

 

[QueBert]

Biggie was the better lyricist. His style was always evolving and he could adapt to anyone's style....Notorious Thugs??

Tupac was just a better poet.

Biggie said "stuck in the middle like Monie" and "I get more butt then ashtrays" he was the most overrated lyricists ever. I know he said lots of other shit and some of it was good, but more butt than ashtrays? YEAH NO.

 

[KeithTalent]

what's this about Hornsby hate?

remind me to sucker punch you when we meet up ~1 week from now.

Hey I liked the Hornsby song back in the day, but it sounds terribly cheesy in that 2Pac song. D:

very true. HipHop never really made it out to the west coast. fuck all of that Cali bullshit, tbh.

(..except The Pharcyde...:wub: those guys. But they always thought they were East coast, so that's cool)

Pharcyde is awesome.

Kool Keith has more of a cult following than mass notoriety. He also does a lot under different pseudonyms; Dr. Doom, Dr. Octogon, Black Elvis and Kool Keith. He was part of the Ultramagnetic MCs, if you've heard of them. He's certainly flown under the radar of widespread popularity and the guy is pretty out there if you ever see him interviewed, weird dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yin3ReQKDes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKeAtYia-N8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHIEWz9agw4

Yep, weird, but awesome dude. Even the instrumental versions of his Dr. Oc records are fantastic.

KT

 

[child of wonder]

Forget Tupac vs Biggie. What the fuck happened to rap in general? Back in the day some of the songs were actually about telling a story through their art. Now it's just computer generated bullshit where every other word is a racial slur or curse word. Old school rap wasn't clean, but they had a real message to convey like "look how terrible life is in ghetto" or "life as a poor black kid is hard." Now it's "money, bitches, money, bitches, fuck, fuck, fuck, money, money, bitches, hos" and the retarded masses eat it up.

The genre got too popular too fast and was rapidly commercialized.

 

[KeithTalent]

Forget Tupac vs Biggie. What the fuck happened to rap in general? Back in the day some of the songs were actually about telling a story through their art. Now it's just computer generated bullshit where every other word is a racial slur or curse word. Old school rap wasn't clean, but they had a real message to convey like "look how terrible life is in ghetto" or "life as a poor black kid is hard." Now it's "money, bitches, money, bitches, fuck, fuck, fuck, money, money, bitches, hos" and the retarded masses eat it up.

The genre got too popular too fast and was rapidly commercialized.

There is still a lot of good stuff out there, just need to dig a little deeper.

KT