2nd set Democrat debates

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ivwshane

Lifer
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Wishful thinking. The soundbites of the debate (as determined by right-wing media and Intarwebs) will be $500 billion for reparations and Dems are gonna raise taxes on the middle class to pay for healthcare that you may not even want.

Sad but true but that is mostly due to cnn's poor moderation/questioning.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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You guys do realize Slow is sitting on his cardboard box laughing at you because you're responding to his juvenile nonsense. I wish he'd tell me where he lives in WI so I could drive by and put a flaming bag of dogshit on the doorstep of his trailer.

These are supposedly smart, tech people, too... I simply don't get it.

When you have oft banned, attention whoring simp who on ignore all you see is a bunch of people trying to convince a piece of shit it stinks...

Just put the shit out with the trash and be done with it. 1000 winner likes says a new, er uh, dusted off sock puppet will appear in a day or two if the replies stopped...
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Pete's star is fading.

2030 is the new climate change deadline, eh? All the previous end-stage-or-else dates haven't come true, but now 2030. Got it.

Now Pocahontas is speaking. Ugh.
dude you have halitosis, I can smell it from here.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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So far I think the winner of this debate is Bernie, followed by Warren.

To me the losers are cnn, Delaney, and Tim Ryan.

I'd say the fact you are talking about them means they didn't lose.

Meanwhile, where the F was Pete again tonight? For being such an eloquent guy he's really bad at these things.

Then there's Amy Klo..bu..zzzzzzzzzzz.....
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
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Wishful thinking. The soundbites of the debate (as determined by right-wing media and Intarwebs) will be $500 billion for reparations and Dems are gonna raise taxes on the middle class to pay for healthcare that you may not even want.
Fear monger much???
 

Ken g6

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It sounds like there was a substantive debate on health care tonight. But I don't get cable and don't have time to go through it all tonight. I believe we need a single-payer system, so that doctors have less paperwork, so that patients don't get services denied, and so that patients can choose their doctors. But I believe it's not practical to dismantle private insurance overnight, and I think we need to find a place for them too. Is there anybody with a plan like that?

Anyone? Bueller?
 

sportage

Lifer
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It's sad people have no idea how wonderful it would be to simply walk into a doctors office or hospital, get treated, and have no bill to deal with.
We have never had that in America, so how can people begin to understand the incredible relief and burden lifted off Americans shoulder? They can't grasp the concept.
And thus makes it so easy for the status quo healthcare industry to scary people, create fear in people, create confusion, and simply lie people into fearing that knight in shining armor of healthcare for all.

Lobbyist, paid-for politicians, corruption, greed, they all control what system of healthcare Americans have and will not have.
And equally sad is where people fall to understand that with everybody paying a little more in tax would also give everyone full access to healthcare.
And for a lot less cost.

But still, I think people are waking up. Or better said shocked into waking up. This isn't the 1990's or Hillary Clinton or those anti universal healthcare tv ads from the 90's. No it isn't....
People now know on a personal level that they will need healthcare and their families will need healthcare. And people now know how high that cost is. And how unaffordable that cost is. And people now know that keeping with this status quo for profit system will mean some will get care and some will not.
And if we continue under this current system, most will not get the care they need, regardless.
And fewer having access year after year, regardless.
People are wise to the lies and to the distractions, and people know that they need healthcare for themselves and for everyone. I think people are now ready for universal healthcare.
 

Bitek

Lifer
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It sounds like there was a substantive debate on health care tonight. But I don't get cable and don't have time to go through it all tonight. I believe we need a single-payer system, so that doctors have less paperwork, so that patients don't get services denied, and so that patients can choose their doctors. But I believe it's not practical to dismantle private insurance overnight, and I think we need to find a place for them too. Is there anybody with a plan like that?

Anyone? Bueller?

Then you want one of the "public option" moderates and not Bernie or Warren.

There are overreaching IMO.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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It sounds like there was a substantive debate on health care tonight. But I don't get cable and don't have time to go through it all tonight. I believe we need a single-payer system, so that doctors have less paperwork, so that patients don't get services denied, and so that patients can choose their doctors. But I believe it's not practical to dismantle private insurance overnight, and I think we need to find a place for them too. Is there anybody with a plan like that?

Anyone? Bueller?


Don't quote me but I think most plans phase in their plans. The ones that support adding a public option say your concern is why they support leaving the existing system and adding a public option. It allows those that like what they have to keep what they have and allows others to finally get away from the garbage for profit system we have now.

Either way it really boils down to horrible messaging.

If we get rid of the private industry doctors aren't going to suddenly leave their career, doctors aren't going to start dropping patients. So really its a bs concern propagated by Republicans and the health care industry. Its the, "government is going to kill your grandma" all over again.

The bottom line is this; no matter what health care reform plan you support, all of them will require price controls and the losers will be those that have been milking their customers.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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I'd say the fact you are talking about them means they didn't lose.

Meanwhile, where the F was Pete again tonight? For being such an eloquent guy he's really bad at these things.

Then there's Amy Klo..bu..zzzzzzzzzzz.....

That's some horrible logic. In the first debate I was also talking about marieanne Williamson as well and no one thinks she won in any way.

Delaney and Ryan had been moved of my list so they aren't winning in my book.
 

Bitek

Lifer
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That's some horrible logic. In the first debate I was also talking about marieanne Williamson as well and no one thinks she won in any way.

Delaney and Ryan had been moved of my list so they aren't winning in my book.

Damn you, do not speak ill of the wine lady! She'll be the next secretary of love and you will like it!
..

Maybe off your list, but they did do a decent job of standing out and giving themselves the chance to get in someone else's radar who's looking for a moderate. Don't think enough to challenge Biden, but not dead yet. That's not a loss in a 22 person field and 10 person debate.

Hickenlooper otoh... No one is taking about him. He needs to just stop.
 
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glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Overall impressions:

Bernie: still the "old guy yelling at clouds" in the race.

Warren: listened to John Lennon's "Imagine" one too many times and started believing it.

Mayor Pete: The Rupert Everett character in "My Best Friend's Wedding" who is the secondary character that's the smart, collected, grounded, and gay friend of the comedy lead who's losing her mind, the one who asks Julia Roberts ""so who's chasing you?".

O'Rourke: "please pick me as your VP, I can help you win Texas"

Hickenlooper: self-disproves his talking point "I'm a governor so that means by default I know what I'm talking about"

Klobuchar: "I'm lost, can someone give me directions?"

Williamson: "Don't forget to buy a copy of my book on sale in the lobby"

Delaney: "my job is to convince people that Warren has no fucking clue, then drop out of the race in a month."

Ryan: "Good thing I'm from the midwest so I can hitchhike back home after the debate. Hopefully my campaign can raise enough funds to cover me buying a couple new suits."

Bullock: I have a side bet with the Montana state director of tourism that I could work into the debate the factoid about "if Montanans ate all the wheat we grew that would be 40 loaves of bread per day." He owes me $20 and I intend to collect when I get back tomorrow.
 
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JEDIYoda

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Overall impressions:

Bernie: still the "old guy yelling at clouds" in the race.

Warren: listened to John Lennon's "Imagine" one too many times and started believing it.

Mayor Pete: The Rupert Everett character in "My Best Friend's Wedding" who is the secondary character that's the smart, collected, grounded, and gay friend of the comedy lead who's losing her mind, the one who asks Julia Roberts ""so who's chasing you?".

O'Rourke: "please pick me as your VP, I can help you win Texas"

Hickenlooper: self-disproves his talking point "I'm a governor so that means by default I know what I'm talking about"

Klobuchar: "I'm lost, can someone give me directions?"

Williamson: "Don't forget to buy a copy of my book on sale in the lobby"

Delaney: "my job is to convince people that Warren has no fucking clue, then drop out of the race in a month."

Ryan: "Good thing I'm from the midwest so I can hitchhike back home after the debate. Hopefully my campaign can raise enough funds to cover me buying a couple new suits."

Bullock: I have a side bet with the Montana state director of tourism that I could work into the debate the factoid about "if Montanans ate all the wheat we grew that would be 40 loaves of bread per day." He owes me $20 and I intend to collect when I get back tomorrow.
Republican taking points!!
My impression of TRUMP -- not qualified for the office! Single handedly destroying the United States!
Sadly most Republican are scared shitless of Trump and will not stand up to his crap until it is to late so stand up!!
Personally I have palces to go if I don`t want to live here, but I care about this country and am staying the course!!
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Overall impressions:

Bernie: still the "old guy yelling at clouds" in the race.

Warren: listened to John Lennon's "Imagine" one too many times and started believing it.

Mayor Pete: The Rupert Everett character in "My Best Friend's Wedding" who is the secondary character that's the smart, collected, grounded, and gay friend of the comedy lead who's losing her mind, the one who asks Julia Roberts ""so who's chasing you?".

O'Rourke: "please pick me as your VP, I can help you win Texas"

Hickenlooper: self-disproves his talking point "I'm a governor so that means by default I know what I'm talking about"

Klobuchar: "I'm lost, can someone give me directions?"

Williamson: "Don't forget to buy a copy of my book on sale in the lobby"

Delaney: "my job is to convince people that Warren has no fucking clue, then drop out of the race in a month."

Ryan: "Good thing I'm from the midwest so I can hitchhike back home after the debate. Hopefully my campaign can raise enough funds to cover me buying a couple new suits."

Bullock: I have a side bet with the Montana state director of tourism that I could work into the debate the factoid about "if Montanans ate all the wheat we grew that would be 40 loaves of bread per day." He owes me $20 and I intend to collect when I get back tomorrow.

Wow! So insightful! That's some next level educated voter shit right there.
 
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esquared

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These are supposedly smart, tech people, too... I simply don't get it.

When you have oft banned, attention whoring simp who on ignore all you see is a bunch of people trying to convince a piece of shit it stinks...

Just put the shit out with the trash and be done with it. 1000 winner likes says a new, er uh, dusted off sock puppet will appear in a day or two if the replies stopped...
If everyone had this insipid, russian-loving-sycophant on ignore, then we wouldn't be subjected to him and his insane
race-baiting postings.
He's a useful idiot to the russians, but that's it.
I have six of these raging assholes on ignore and he will make number seven.
He's nothing but a trump-humping parrot.

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esquared

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The asshole is in a Dem debate thread to troll. He's trump-humper. He doesn't care about the Dems,
or the debate. He's only here to attempt to troll. Nothing more, nothing less.
He is just like these video card/CPU fanboys that go into the competitors
threads, when there is a new release, just to shit on the thread.
They don't want to add anything useful to the conversation. They just want to fuck things up for the rest of the people having discussion.
There's nothing useful to add since they're commited to their "company/side". In this case, trump and the russians.
 
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SlowSpyder

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These Dem debates are making me feel better about Trump in
considering that having a "black" sounding name is about the equivalent of a "white" name plus a felony on record (see here, here, and here), I'd say racism is alive and well. It may not be as visible as say..."separate but equal", and it may be part of people's implicit biases, but it exists nonetheless.

BS study that has been debunked. In that name study some "black" names had up to 3x the call back of some white name. That right there shows that it is very random, if it was really about black vs white sounding names then you wouldn't see that. I remember reading about how "Randy" (I think that was the name) had significantly less call back than almost all the supposed black names.

The number one factor in someone being successful or not is having two parents in their life. Thanks to an embracing of liberalism that isn't the case in all but about 1/4 of the time with black children. Embrace liberalism, be taught to be a victim, be told to rely on the government for your needs... the modern Democrats. They couldn't wait to talk about giving people free stuff in the form of reparations last night. This is a common sense "No." But, the left is sprinting left, trying to out liberal each other. They went beyond common sense long ago, now they're getting further and further from it, and you guys still can't comprehend how Trump won... it is amazing to me.

I however have been a victim of affirmative action, institutionalized racism supported by the left. You guys think fighting ghosts of racism with real racism is the answer. The party of excuses.