Awesome. Now hire them back at half the wages.
:thumbsup: At least you are consistent, unlike other "small government" proponents here.
Camden, NJ, OKs laying off 1-in-4 city workers
Associated Press, 12.03.10, 03:28 PM EST
CAMDEN, N.J. -- The City Council in New Jersey's most impoverished and violent city has agreed on a plan to lay off one-fourth of city government workers, including about half the police department.
Camden's City Council approved the plan unanimously on Thursday despite pleas from workers and residents to find a way to save the jobs.
The layoffs are to be effective Jan. 18. The state Civil Service Commission has already approved them.
There could be fewer layoffs if public employee unions agree to concessions. Retirements also are likely to reduce the number.
Studies consistently find Camden to be among the most impoverished and crime-ridden cities in the country.
With a tiny tax base, the city of nearly 80,000 relies on the state for most of its funding. But the state slashed aid this year because of a fiscal crisis of its own. Communities across the state have laid off workers, with some of the biggest cuts coming in police departments in the largest cities.
This week, Newark laid off 167 officers, and Jersey City announced plans to lay off 82. Meanwhile, Atlantic City hired back 17 of the 60 officers it had let go after the police union agreed to pay cut.
Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson has said he'll reconfigure his department so patrols aren't reduced.
About one-third of Camden's firefighting positions also would be eliminated under the city's plans, which could affect every department in the city government.
The only one talking about "small government" is you...![]()
Yep, the cons sure aren't.
Because it's not an issue of Small or Large Government.
It *IS* because there just isn't enough money to pay them. I've posted the city's budget. I've posted the news articles saying so. I've shown that the LAW here is that the budgets have to be balanced. And I've shown that the Givernment here are Democrats
But Nooooo... You Libtards can't even make the smallest effort to even look at that. Easier to pull your 'Talking Points' out and throw baseless accusastions and spew whatever mindless sh*t comes to your tiny tiny minds.
The city government just got smaller by 25%. We'll see how that works out. I am sure Camden NJ, is going to be doing great with all the small government they are going to be getting.
It's NOT about large or small government - It's BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY.
And I'll tell you how it's going to work out: Canden, NJ will it's title as the #1 Crime ridden and violent city in the country back from St. Louis.
I'll repeat my challenge: PROVE it's some scheme to enfoce small government, rather than a broken city budget.
The end result is small government. We'll see how it works out for them.
The end result is small government. We'll see how it works out for them.
Sad, Sad attempt at Deflection.
3rd time: PROVE it's some scheme to enforce small government, rather than a broken city budget.
That's an even worse attempt at deflection: The "Small Government" movement is about minmimal intervention in individual/business affairs. Not being forced to cut the Police forces in (arguably) the worst city in the country due to not being able to pay their salaries.
But that's OK: At least you have the opportunity to once again deny reality and stick to your Progressive talking points.
it's never the right small government for the small government crowd.
Prove it's about small government
Christie cut off their finances-$69 million worth. Direct result is police layoffs. Neat political trick-the syncopants will blame the "liberal" city government, praise the so-called fiscally responsible governor and most voters outside of Camden won't give a sh*t because it saves them money and they would never go to Camden anyway.
Long term effect-Camden continues to decline, lose jobs, increased public costs for welfare, medicare, court system and prisons-but people won't see those effects until Christie is long gone on his presidential run.
A big part of the problem is national in scope, with our split between cities and suburbs. Cities-any city-is being strangled when the lion's share of its taxbase flees to the suburbs. An effect of the automobile culture we have never properly addressed.
25% cut in government employment. It is smaller government.
Unfortuanately the Repuplican, right wing conservative prapaganda machine is a master at convincing the people that it's all the Democrats fault.
Fortunately, now that they are increasingly in power at least in the majority of state legislatures they will actually have to start to govern instead of bloviate. Once the people get a taste of the draconian cuts to services this type of mentalilty engenders, they will get their asses thrown out come the next election cycle.
Fortunately, now that they are increasingly in power at least in the majority of state legislatures they will actually have to start to govern instead of bloviate. Once the people get a taste of the draconian cuts to services this type of mentalilty engenders, they will get their asses thrown out come the next election cycle.
Although once a thriving center for manufacturing and industry, Camden is perhaps best known for its struggles with urban dysfunction. Three Camden mayors have been jailed for corruption, the most recent being Milton Milan in 2000. Since 2005 the school system and police department have been operated by the State of New Jersey; the takeover will expire in 2012. In 2009, Camden had the highest crime rate in the U.S. with 2,333 violent crimes per 100,000 people while the national average was 455 per 100,000. Camden public schools spend $17,000 per student per year yet only two thirds of the students graduate. Two out of every five residents are below the national poverty line.
NJ is, and has been for nearly all of living memory, a Democratic controlled state.
NJ has a BALANCED BUDGET provision in the State Constitution: When there isn't enough money in State coffers, then budgets and support to local/county government has to be cut BY LAW
How many times do I have to repeat this before you 'tards get it?
Question for you and some of the other posters: Why are you so completely Incapable of viewing these things outside the prism of your own twisted vision of Partisanship?
The City of Camden has been democratically controlled for nearly all of living memory.
The City of Camden has also been a sh*t hole for nearly all of living memory.
55 Christopher S. Christie 2010- Republican Governor
Posting the same thing over and over will not change the fact that Republican regime is causing the destruction of New Jersey, hell you have to pay for a tunnel that won't be built now even.
Fun times
Fun times:
THE STATE SENATE IS DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED (which you removed from my quote)
THE STATE ASSEMBLY IS DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED (which you also removed from my quote)
THE CITY OF CAMDEN IS DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED
Ignoring the Truth over and over doesn't make you right.
Same as on the National level, just because Repubs don't have the WH, they still have full control.
Camden, NJ, OKs laying off 1-in-4 city workers
Associated Press, 12.03.10, 03:28 PM EST
CAMDEN, N.J. -- The City Council in New Jersey's most impoverished and violent city has agreed on a plan to lay off one-fourth of city government workers, including about half the police department.
Camden's City Council approved the plan unanimously on Thursday despite pleas from workers and residents to find a way to save the jobs.
The layoffs are to be effective Jan. 18. The state Civil Service Commission has already approved them.
There could be fewer layoffs if public employee unions agree to concessions. Retirements also are likely to reduce the number.
Studies consistently find Camden to be among the most impoverished and crime-ridden cities in the country.
With a tiny tax base, the city of nearly 80,000 relies on the state for most of its funding. But the state slashed aid this year because of a fiscal crisis of its own. Communities across the state have laid off workers, with some of the biggest cuts coming in police departments in the largest cities.
This week, Newark laid off 167 officers, and Jersey City announced plans to lay off 82. Meanwhile, Atlantic City hired back 17 of the 60 officers it had let go after the police union agreed to pay cut.
Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson has said he'll reconfigure his department so patrols aren't reduced.
About one-third of Camden's firefighting positions also would be eliminated under the city's plans, which could affect every department in the city government.
