2K Games apologizes, BioShock 2 DLC coming to PC after all

tyler811

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Earlier this month, 2K Games announced that BioShock 2's downloadable content would not launch on pc., citing "timing and technical issues." Naturally, that threw PC gamers into a fit of rage, because both The Protector Trails and Minerva's Den DLC are available on the Xbox 360 and playstation 3. It seems that anger has paid off, as the developer has retracted its cancellation. "We have resumed development… and they will be coming to PC," said company representative Elizabeth Tobey


http://www.techspot.com/news/40902-2k-games-apologizes-bioshock-2-dlc-coming-to-pc-after-all.html
 

sandorski

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Makes me shake my head. If the whole Video Gaming Industry crashes in the next few years it would not surprise me one bit. Idiots seem to rise to the top of this industry.
 

Qbah

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Well I'm happy :) Gonna grab the DLC once it's out! Thanks 2K for changing your mind.
 

Schadenfroh

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Now, they need to release the SDK, then the community could have a field day and make the game last far longer than its normal life cycle.

But.... releasing an SDK would eat into DLC sales.
 

Specop 007

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Makes me shake my head. If the whole Video Gaming Industry crashes in the next few years it would not surprise me one bit. Idiots seem to rise to the top of this industry.

Supply and demand. Someone will step in to fill the void if the current developers leave the market. Theres simply too much money in PC games still, and that doesnt look to change anytime soon.
 

tyler811

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Now, they need to release the SDK, then the community could have a field day and make the game last far longer than its normal life cycle.

But.... releasing an SDK would eat into DLC sales.

That would be awesome, there are some talented people out there that could make a helluva add on.
 

minmaster

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lol they really should apologize for civ5 too. i never felt so ripped off on a game in my life...
 

zerocool84

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Meh I'll wait until they release a Game of the Year version of Bioshock 2. The first one was cool but not that good. Definitely can wait later for this game.
 

Bateluer

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lol they really should apologize for civ5 too. i never felt so ripped off on a game in my life...

I'd take some effective patches to correct its flaws over an apology. Witch Hunt DLC takes my cake for the most ripped off I've ever been on a electronic game though.
 

minmaster

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I'd take some effective patches to correct its flaws over an apology.
the problem is i really don't think civ5 is salvageable. the core game mechanics are what's wrong with the game, unless they do a total overhaul, i don't see it worthy of my time.
 

acheron

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what's wrong with civ 5?

The basis of most people's complaints seems to be "It's not Civ 4". Apparently some people never played any of the Civ games before 4 and realized that they change every time. This isn't Madden.
 

Pia

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The basis of most people's complaints seems to be "It's not Civ 4". Apparently some people never played any of the Civ games before 4 and realized that they change every time. This isn't Madden.
You can find pretty deep play-by-play analysis here.
http://www.garath.net/Sullla/Civ5/civ5.html
I'm not a Civ player (was reading to find out if Civ combat has become less boring), but it certainly sounds to me the design as well as the AI of Civ V is broken in ways that have nothing to do with how much it resembles Civ IV.
 

paperfist

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The basis of most people's complaints seems to be "It's not Civ 4". Apparently some people never played any of the Civ games before 4 and realized that they change every time. This isn't Madden.

See that's not exactly the problem. Yes, it's not Civ IV, but no one expected an exact clone anyway. We knew we were getting ranged combat, hexes instead of squares and we new a bit about social polices. We knew religion, spys, and transports were gone too.

What most of us disappointed people didn't anticipate was a return to city spamming, ultra aggressive AI that just wants war, war, war. AI that doesn't even know how to use a boat, social policies that get locked in. We didn't expect tile bonuses to be so underwhelming, moving armies to be so tedious and the need to buy land you already own.

Who would have thought a simple ways to remap keys would be missing, or even having so many keys changed from the old games to something you can't even figure out now. Scoring is changes, the lists went from something meaningful to 'the most shiny people in the world'. It all just seems to uninspired, consolized and mechanically broken.

The problem it seems is that Civ IV: BTS was so feature packed, balanced and sufficiently challenging that we thought Civ V would build on that, not strip it all down to basics and start all over.
 

GaryJohnson

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The problem it seems is that Civ IV: BTS was so feature packed, balanced and sufficiently challenging that we thought Civ V would build on that, not strip it all down to basics and start all over.

I think it's a common problem that sequels and clones to sandbox/sim games suffer from poor feature carry over. You can't make a game in a vacuum. Look at what came before, and make something better in every way.
 

paperfist

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I think it's a common problem that sequels and clones to sandbox/sim games suffer from poor feature carry over. You can't make a game in a vacuum. Look at what came before, and make something better in every way.

You have a very valid point and once I read it I thought of Simcity 4 and the train wreck that came after it. Same goes for Railroad Tycoon, Roller Coaster Tycoon, and a host of others.

Still if they carried over some of the stuff without also changing the game mechanics and gameplay it would have been easier to swallow.