290x - Arctic Extreme III

[Fastx]

Just putting this out there, Arctic recently announced their Arctic Extreme III is compatible with the 290x incase this might interest anyone who already bought/ordered a 290x to give it a try and report back.

Revenger?

Only yesterday we reported on a water cooling EK Water Blocks , which was developed for the 290X Radeon R9 . But of course there are also good air cooling systems in question . The manufacturer Arctic Cooling Prolimatech and have now announced over computerbase.de that their top models Accelero Xtreme III and Accelero Hybrid or MK -26 and MK -26 Black Series are compatible with the new AMD flagship.

EDIT I would stay away from this Arctic Extreme III cooler for a 290X looks like Face2Face nailed it (see F2F comments (vrm cooling in this thread )before any test results were out.

Arctic Extreme III & 290x Link
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1788658

 

[R0H1T]

Nice, if the 7970 numbers above are anything to go by then the temp delta on the 290x could well be beyond 35 degrees or even 40 in extreme cases, like furmark, vis-a-vis the reference cooler.

 

[OCGuy]

I'm not sure what you are saying...is this just another 290x aftermarket speculation thread or is there some new info? That looks like the 7970 advertisement?

 

[Rvenger]

Revenger?

Yes? I don't have the AC Extreme III though.

 

[Fastx]

I'm not sure what you are saying...is this just another 290x aftermarket speculation thread or is there some new info? That looks like the 7970 advertisement?

Just posting that Arctic announced that their Extreme III (their current cooler 7x etc series) will work/fit on a 290x out of the box. The 7970 performance I posted was just an example of their cooling claims on that card won't know the temp performance on a 290x till someone post a review and or a forum member puts one on their 290x and reports back.

 

[Fastx]

Yes? I don't have the AC Extreme III though.

Well if you do decide to get one I am sure a lot of peeps would be interested in the Arctic temp performance & poss. card increase perf on a 290x.

BTW congrats on the 290X!

 

[Face2Face]

I don't think their ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme 7970 cooler will work with Hawaii.

The one on the bottom is for the 7970, like the one on my 7950's.

Not gonna fit too well on this elongated core...

 

[Fastx]

I don't think their ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme 7970 cooler will work with Hawaii.

The one on the bottom is for the 7970, like the one on my 7950's.

Not gonna fit too well on this elongated core...

F2F are saying the Arctic Extreme III will not work per article above?

I only posted the Arctic Extreme 7970 as an example for how it cooled the 7970 in their testing.

I am thinking they have two coolers the Arctic Extreme III and the Artic Extreme 7970 or would this be incorrect and none of the Arctic coolers will work at this point?

 

[Fastx]

Face I also read another article I try and find it not sure it might be the same as the one I posted I think but I will look for to check if it is any different than the above.

But thanks for posting this if this is in fact true/correct and it won't work on the 290x!

 

[Face2Face]

F2F are saying the Arctic Extreme III will not work per article above?

I only posted the Arctic Extreme 7970 as an example for how it cooled the 7970 in their testing.

I am thinking they have two coolers the Arctic Extreme III and the Artic Extreme 7970 or would this be incorrect and none of the Arctic coolers will work at this point?

The do have two coolers. If you look in the picture I posted, the top cooler is the "generic" Extreme III cooler which works on a lot of cards. This is the cooler I believe will work with the R290X. The 7970 version which is the version shown on the bottom of the picture I don't think will work, because the gpu copper block is specifically designed for Tahiti, notice the diamond shape.

Also keep in mind the Extreme III is rated to dissipate up to 300 watts... this is cutting it really close for a heavily overclocked R9 290X. And the vrm cooling on the arctic coolers suck....of course I am not sure how hot the vrms on the R290X get? or are allowed to get?

 

[Fastx]

The do have two coolers. If you look in the picture I posted, the top cooler is the "generic" Extreme III cooler which works on a lot of cards. This is the cooler I believe will work with the R290X. The 7970 version which is the version shown on the bottom of the picture I don't think will work, because the gpu copper block is specifically designed for Tahiti, notice the diamond shape.

Ok yeah I just posted the second pic with the 7970 results as an example (see my post #5) to how the cooler is performance wise per there claim as they are the same design. I just take down that pic/results so their is no confusion then.

Thanks for bringing this up then that could confuse people into the wrong cooler sku!

Edit Ok just saw your edit now on the dissipate up to 300w so thanks again F2F for the info.

 

[Fastx]

Edit NVM that was underwater.

 

[railven]

I don't think their ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme 7970 cooler will work with Hawaii.

The one on the bottom is for the 7970, like the one on my 7950's.

Not gonna fit too well on this elongated core...

Oh thank god you said this because if it was in fact true the Accelero Extreme HD 7970 Edition worked on Hawaii I'd be kicking myself right now haha.

Seems this is a separate cooler most likely north of >$60 which makes the pill harder to swallow.

 

[24601]

Oh thank god you said this because if it was in fact true the Accelero Extreme HD 7970 Edition worked on Hawaii I'd be kicking myself right now haha.

Seems this is a separate cooler most likely north of >$60 which makes the pill harder to swallow.

There's no way a 290x with removed throttling and removed powertune limits is anything less than a 350w TDP chip. It would be foolish to expect a good overclock on a cooler rated for 300w TDP anyways.

 

[3DVagabond]

Oh thank god you said this because if it was in fact true the Accelero Extreme HD 7970 Edition worked on Hawaii I'd be kicking myself right now haha.

Seems this is a separate cooler most likely north of >$60 which makes the pill harder to swallow.

The standard cooler is actually cheaper than the 7970 cooler. The 7970 takes a special gpu block. The other cooler is the universal one that works for all the other cards.

There's no way a 290x with removed throttling and removed powertune limits is anything less than a 350w TDP chip. It would be foolish to expect a good overclock on a cooler rated for 300w TDP anyways.

You can draw more than 300W on a lot of cards when upping the voltage and O/C'ing. That cooler is a bear. It will handle Hawaii.

I might be mistaken, but I've read nothing about poor VRM cooling. I have read it's a PIA to mount the VRM heat sinks, though.

 

[Fastx]

The standard cooler is actually cheaper than the 7970 cooler. The 7970 takes a special gpu block. The other cooler is the universal one that works for all the other cards.



You can draw more than 300W on a lot of cards when upping the voltage and O/C'ing. That cooler is a bear. It will handle Hawaii.

I might be mistaken, but I've read nothing about poor VRM cooling. I have read it's a PIA to mount the VRM heat sinks, though.

FWIW here is a review of a 680 (DCII) with the Extreme III on a GTX 680 Asus DC II Top cooling performance wise and on the 680 VRM's temps (decent job imo)in this review. But yes this is not a 290x and like Face2Face said don't know (least I haven't seen any yet either) where the vrms temp are and how hot they get on the 290x. Also imo I take Face2Face members opinions/experience seriously when he posts but I am curious to see a review of this cooler on the 290x to see how it performs.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...eme-iii-review-w-asus-gtx680-directcu-ii-top/

Just for the record again I posted about the Extreme III for the 290x in the op not the Extreme III 7970 I only posted a cooling performance chart of the Extreme III 7970 cooler to show how it performed according to Arctic's claims and has since removed it so there is no confusion.

 

[Stuka87]

There's no way a 290x with removed throttling and removed powertune limits is anything less than a 350w TDP chip. It would be foolish to expect a good overclock on a cooler rated for 300w TDP anyways.

It would work fine. The fans may have to run a bit higher, but that cooler would have no issues cooling the 290X (Assuming it physically mounted).

They rate the cooler for dissipating X watts at a given fan speed (Which is fairly low).

 

[Face2Face]

The standard cooler is actually cheaper than the 7970 cooler. The 7970 takes a special gpu block. The other cooler is the universal one that works for all the other cards.

You can draw more than 300W on a lot of cards when upping the voltage and O/C'ing. That cooler is a bear. It will handle Hawaii.

I might be mistaken, but I've read nothing about poor VRM cooling. I have read it's a PIA to mount the VRM heat sinks, though.

Your right the cooler should be able to handle Hawaii to an extent. I can tell you from my own experience with this cooler and a hot and power hungry 7950, the cooler cannot keep up when a certain voltage is reached. The problem these coolers have is mainly with the the fans. As they do not spin fast enough and don't push enough air to dissipate the heat quick enough. This has it's perks though, because the card is very quiet even at 100% fan speed and still performs very well as long as your not pushing the card too hard. The vrms heatsinks provided are pretty abysmal. You can use thermal tape to apply them to the vrms and memory chips to make installation easy. IMO the vrms need more of a meaty heatsink and a good mounting solution to apply more pressure to them to help extract the heat quicker(Looks at Gigabytes 280X windforce vrm heatsink arrangement) Also with the arctic fans being rather weak, they can't get enough airflow to the vrms heatsinks to dissipate the heat quick enough. I have the stock memory/vrm heatsink that comes with my TF3's and the stock fans cool the vrms better than the arctic. I believe this is a combination of higher CFM/RPM fans and thinner heatsink Easier to push the air through)

 

[railven]

The standard cooler is actually cheaper than the 7970 cooler. The 7970 takes a special gpu block. The other cooler is the universal one that works for all the other cards.

And still north of $60 which is what I said, cheaper than the HD version wasn't my point on price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186068

You can draw more than 300W on a lot of cards when upping the voltage and O/C'ing. That cooler is a bear. It will handle Hawaii.

I might be mistaken, but I've read nothing about poor VRM cooling. I have read it's a PIA to mount the VRM heat sinks, though.

But this was my point since I had one but sold it and if it worked on Hawaii I'd have kicked myself since it would have removed the "not buying R9 290X without a custom cooler" argument from my "don't buy R9 290X" decision.

 

[Fastx]

Another air option for current 290x owners. (Gelid Icy Vision R2)
290x full load temp 3Dmark 2011 66c.

See post #4
http://forums.videocardz.com/topic/600-r9-290x-with-prolimatech-mk-26-black-series/