27" Pro Graphics Monitor, also good for gaming

dsc106

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27" size is ideal... 30" is a bit too big for my workspace I think.

Video editing and color grading is top concern, day use for work.

Also a gamer after hours, so hopefully not a monitor that compromises gaming. Though I'm ok with being capped at a 60fps frame rate I think, if needed?

I want to pair with a GTX 1080 TI (currently have GTX 970). A 2.7K might be ideal for games, but 4K might be ideal for desktop real estate? I'm thinking 2.7K might be the best trade-off.

Budget is $400-$1000... whatever will get me what I need, but no need to waste money!

Is this a good time to buy, or should I wait with HDR displays coming out, or massive price drops on 4K displays + next gen NVIDIA card for faster 4K performance? I would buy GPU + New Monitor together as a display upgrade.

I'm not in a hurry, I currently have 3x monitor (2x 24" IPS, 1x 22" IPS). Just want a bigger main monitor within the next 12 months or so.

Please let me know current monitor recommendations, as well as wait or buy recommendations.
 

dsc106

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That is a good choice for a professional graphics monitor for color grading?
 

urfe

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Professional monitor means wide color gamut (i.e. Adobe RGB), 14-16bit color LUT, support for hardware calibration (decent calorimeters are cheap), as well as uniformity equalizers (brightness and color fluctuations across the screen are dynamically minimized to extremely low levels).

At your price point you really do not have too many options: the Nec PA272W or the Eizo CS2730.

If you can read German or accept the mess of an automatic translation, check prad.de and their reviews for those two which I mentioned - especially the image quality chapters.

I hope this helps!
 

dsc106

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Those monitors also seem to have a low refresh rate... anything better for both? Or no?

I can up my budget if needed, is it worth it if not PRINTING, just color grading 10-bit video accurately?

Is this a good time to buy (questions in original post)?

Sorry for all the questions, hoping someone can shed more insight...
 

lefenzy

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All 144 Hz 27" IPS panels are 8 bit panels, with some white uniformity and backlight problems, a bit dependent on chance. 144 Hz is a great upgrade for games, and I'm sure you can calibrate the panel, but it won't be specialized for color accuracy.

There are some 27" 4K 144 Hz displays coming up with wider gamut support. They will cost $2000.
 

dsc106

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Ok, let's just bump the budget to $1000-$2000 if needed...

I'm also seeing the NEC PA272W-BK 27" is well regarded - $1300 on BH it's on amazon for only $1000.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1006641-REG/nec_pa272w_bk_multisync_pro_27_gb_r.html

Thoughts on this one vs Benq SW2700PT for $600 (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1176775-REG/benq_sw2700pt_27_photographer_monitor_with.html), or the aformentioned Eizo?

A few questions/thoughts:


  • I have been using 2010 24" Apple Cinema Displays I got for free for the last 7 years. They have been great and my understanding was that they were some of the best displays? Did they have the same 14-bit LUT support and 99%+ Adobe SRGB coverage? Are these newer pro monitors I am looking at (NEC, Eizio, BenQ) a step above my Apple Cinema Displays, or a step below?
  • On the NEC for example, it says PWM frequency is 44hz and Syncrhonization Range is "Horizontal: 31.5-96.5 kHz (Digital only); Vertical: 50-85 Hz" -- I do not understand how this differs from the standard "Refresh Rate" spec which I cannot find? My concern is I would be limited to a 44hz (ie 44 fps) frame rate for games on this monitor.
  • How important is a 1ms refresh rate or over 60hz refresh rate for games? I haven't had a monitor capable of that before (again, been using the 24" Apple Cinema Display for gaming). Is it much of a loss to go with a pro graphics monitor and use it for gaming?

I've been targeting 2.7K because even with a GTX 1080 TI, a 4K monitor will be too demanding for gaming over the course of the next few years, and I don't think I really need that extra resolution... agree?