27'' IPS 3D (120hz) LG Monitor

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destrekor

destrekor

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If it seems like it'll fit your needs/desires, it could be a great LCD, and it definitely looks great.

But passive 3D and eIPS = meh

LG makes some great panels, so it could be a good example of eIPS (actually, LG might be the only manufacturer of eIPS panels... :hmm:), and passive 3D works for those who don't mind the limitations.

Passive 3D is something I think is the future, but right now they are cheap methods to try and compete with the better 3D technology right now.

Passive 3D monitors, including those upcoming LG models, are certainly not 120Hz. Well to be fair, I can't dig up full specs for those LG models, but most likely they will be 60Hz.

If you don't want 120hz and don't care about Nvidia's 3D technology and the supported games, then it'll probably be a great monitor. But in my eyes, it's sacrificing too much to be a good purchase.
 
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ExarKun333 said:
Not sure if folks have heard about this or not, but thought I would post it. Besides the possibility of a great panel, the monitor also comes with almost non-existent bezels. Could be REALLY nice for a dual or triple monitor setup.

Thoughts?

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=170916
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Got any actual pics as opposed to that photoshoped advertising fakeness. Not saying they don't look nice btw just a little sceptical about the actual size of the bezels....
 
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jackstar7 said:
Some makers are using similar techniques to the HDTV crap that gets pushed out. I believe this is "passive" 3D and not 120Hz.
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Ditto. Passive 3D is 60Hz, with a polarizer to direct each line to the opposite eye. In essence rather than going to 120Hz they cut the vertical resolution in half, allowing them to maintain 60Hz. So I seriously doubt this display can accept 120Hz, nor can the panel actually operate at 120Hz.
 
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ViRGE said:
Ditto. Passive 3D is 60Hz, with a polarizer to direct each line to the opposite eye. In essence rather than going to 120Hz they cut the vertical resolution in half, allowing them to maintain 60Hz. So I seriously doubt this display can accept 120Hz, nor can the panel actually operate at 120Hz.
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Well, if thats the case it is too bad. :(
 
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destrekor

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Puppies04 said:
Am I missing something? That is the same pic from before

Edit. and I use the word "pic" in the loosest of terms because the 3d must be bloody amazing if that hasn't been "shopped" which leads me to doubt other parts of the picture such as the bezels hence my inquiry in the first place.
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It's quite clear that those monitors have printouts acting in place of the display.

They used the announcement mainly to, well, tell you they have these monitors on the way, and to show you their physical appearance/style.
Specs thus far are basic "it has this, and this, oh and this!" without any true technical specifications.

You won't be seeing any type of 3D in a photograph, because unless they use some fancy technology (and that is also used at home), the camera has one lens, and can only capture flat imagery.
 
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I can tell you LG , lifes good , is not soo goood. Its a cheap Korean company whos products always go bad after a while. Or you get issues with it. LG is horrible purchase also you will get input lag and ghosting when you enable vsync and what not... But Im just warning you now . Lifes no good my friend. :(

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tweakboy said:
I can tell you LG , lifes good , is not soo goood. Its a cheap Korean company whos products always go bad after a while. Or you get issues with it. LG is horrible purchase also you will get input lag and ghosting when you enable vsync and what not... But Im just warning you now . Lifes no good my friend. :(

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Hmm, funny how wrong you are.

Some of the best monitors in the industry use LG-sourced panels (their IPS panels (true 8 and 10-bit IPS, not eIPS) are actually fantastic and can be quite affordable), and a few LG TN-panel monitors still have legions of gamers that swear by them due to exactly the opposite of what you stated: zero input lag, no ghosting, and otherwise a great twitch-ready monitor (LG L227, which I owned previously, comes to mind).

Some of the best-selling Dell monitors use LG panels, too. ;)

Every monitor manufacturer (and panel manufacturer) has their hits and misses. And half of those misses are still great, or at least good, and just aren't the best option for a specific market (gamers, for instance, have very few "awesome" monitors compared to the media and office types).


Your authoritative statements are yet again misinformed or simply biased.
 
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120hz be damned, once you use a 2560x1440/1600 monitor there is no going back. (IMO :) Gaming at that resolution is very immersive as well.

I do like 120hz a lot, but choosing between the two id probably opt for a PLS or older IPS panel with 2560 resolution. The passive 3d on these upcoming panels is a nice bonus I guess.
 
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blackened23 said:
120hz be damned, once you use a 2560x1440/1600 monitor there is no going back. (IMO :) Gaming at that resolution is very immersive as well.

I do like 120hz a lot, but choosing between the two id probably opt for a PLS or older IPS panel with 2560 resolution. The passive 3d on these upcoming panels is a nice bonus I guess.
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yeah, i'm using 2048x1536 CRT No going back for me :)

2560x1440 seems like the LCD resolution that wouldn't be a downgrade from my CRT
 
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tweakboy said:
I can tell you LG , lifes good , is not soo goood. Its a cheap Korean company whos products always go bad after a while. Or you get issues with it. LG is horrible purchase also you will get input lag and ghosting when you enable vsync and what not... But Im just warning you now . Lifes no good my friend. :(

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You do realize that 90% of LCD panels use LG screens and are rebranded? Heck, to my knowledge 100% of IPS panels are rebranded LG panels.

edit: boy do I feel goofy after reading the post fully ;(
 
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blackened23 said:
120hz be damned, once you use a 2560x1440/1600 monitor there is no going back. (IMO :) Gaming at that resolution is very immersive as well.

I do like 120hz a lot, but choosing between the two id probably opt for a PLS or older IPS panel with 2560 resolution. The passive 3d on these upcoming panels is a nice bonus I guess.
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I do wish I would have went 16:10 monitors instead of 16:9 (1920x1080). Three-wide with already the shortest of resolutions when compared to a 1920x1200 or even a 5:4 monitor.

3x23", 6060x1080 (bc) is definitely quite the immersive experience too. :)

I don't have the desk space for it, but I drool over a triple-2560x1600.
I could handle the black bars when viewing 16x9 content, since I know I'd be getting more vertical real estate during games... racing comes to mind: lose a lot of cockpit visuals three-wide at 1080p compared to 1200p, and BF3 suffers a loss of visibility (less sky when on ground, probably really hurts when maneuvering in the air - though you adjust... racing, no adjusting :().

I have been kicking around the idea of a 23/24" 3D 120hz monitor to replace my middle (all three are Asus 23" IPS, PA238Q). That way, as I am sure a few games will get to the point that visual quality will take precedence over resolution, I'll have a 120hz 1080p monitor to game on. And at times, a single player game will basically demand the 3D experience and I will happily comply... and probably 3D video from time to time too. Plus, I have three monitors still to continue my 2D surround gaming. Unless of course they are incompatible and I cannot hack it to work (mixed monitors and nvidia surround don't often play nice together - native resolution must match (and maybe setting the resolution works too), some other considerations... and even the polarities must match (the video engine's polarities vary across manufacturers more often than not, the same manufacturer even uses different ones for various monitors). It's all kind of a gamble when mixing monitors, unless you can find other people who have tried or use the same monitors.
 
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I know it's a dead thread. Thank Google for that. But just an FYI guys...there is now, unofficially, 120hz ips displays running at 1440p. I have one hooked up to my gtx 680 right now. I have NOT, however, tested it with nvidia 3d vision 2 as of yet. I'll be picking up a kit tomorrow to see if/how it works.
 
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HyperMatrix said:
I know it's a dead thread. Thank Google for that. But just an FYI guys...there is now, unofficially, 120hz ips displays running at 1440p. I have one hooked up to my gtx 680 right now. I have NOT, however, tested it with nvidia 3d vision 2 as of yet. I'll be picking up a kit tomorrow to see if/how it works.
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which brand/model?
 
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biostud said:
which brand/model?
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I've only heard of crazy Korean brand models (Yamakasi Catleap Q270, to be specific) with specialty PCBs that you can "overclock" your refresh rate with, and these PCBs are extremely rare, and even then users are finding that they are actually being limited by their video cards and only able to push the monitors to somewhere around the 100Hz mark, it has something to do with current GPU pixel clock limitations

so really just like we can basically thank nVidia for 120Hz at all due to their pushing it for their 3D technology, it seems like its up to the GPU makers (AMD could take the lead on this just as much) to be able to bring 120Hz to 1440p and higher.

without video cards and drivers capable of pushing 120Hz on a display larger than 1080p (again, not talking about lack of performance, I'm talking about physically unable to push 1440p @ 120Hz even for basic 2D), the manufactures truly have no reason to produce such a monitor.
 
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HyperMatrix said:
I know it's a dead thread. Thank Google for that. But just an FYI guys...there is now, unofficially, 120hz ips displays running at 1440p. I have one hooked up to my gtx 680 right now. I have NOT, however, tested it with nvidia 3d vision 2 as of yet. I'll be picking up a kit tomorrow to see if/how it works.
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Nice.
 
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HyperMatrix said:
I know it's a dead thread. Thank Google for that. But just an FYI guys...there is now, unofficially, 120hz ips displays running at 1440p. I have one hooked up to my gtx 680 right now. I have NOT, however, tested it with nvidia 3d vision 2 as of yet. I'll be picking up a kit tomorrow to see if/how it works.
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Uh, what?

Need details. Did a 120hz IPS panel at 1440p get released? WTH, need more info.
 
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I guess I should chime in here at this point too. I have the same monitor as Hypermatrix: a Catleap 1440p IPS monitor from Korean, manufactured in February, a "2B" version as we call it.

With my GTX 680, it is capable of running up to 115 hz stably; with some tweaks, I'm sure I'll manage to push it up to 120 hz. Although maybe not at full 2560x1440p resolution (perhaps 2500x1440p?)
 
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kevinsbane said:
I guess I should chime in here at this point too. I have the same monitor as Hypermatrix: a Catleap 1440p IPS monitor from Korean, manufactured in February, a "2B" version as we call it.

With my GTX 680, it is capable of running up to 115 hz stably; with some tweaks, I'm sure I'll manage to push it up to 120 hz. Although maybe not at full 2560x1440p resolution (perhaps 2500x1440p?)
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Wow. When is this being released in the states? I presume its actually an IPS panel rebranded, I need this now o_O
 
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