26°C Idle! Stock cooling!

SunnyD

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Wow, I just installed this bad little guy last night with stock AMD cooling. Case ambients aren't going to be the greatest, I have an old Enlight 7230 case, and the only addition I have is a single 40cfm exhaust fan in the back.

This little guy is just cool! The case ambient is 39°C!!! I have yet to monitor under load, but wow. Just wow!

Oh yeah, Sempron 2800+ (1.6ghz no OC.. yet).
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Yep. Semprons run real cool. Enjoy!

It's going to be a major change - I used to use my Athlon XP 2200+ as a space heater in winter back up in New York. Hell, it was even toastier when I had my TBird 1.4.
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1
Interesting because my 2400+ Semphron @ 2.0 Ghz (from 1.67 stock) with the stock cooler runs at 36°C . . .

But yours isn't a 90nm Palermo core is it? :) Stock vCore @ 1.4v...
 

Duvie

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My 4400+X2 at 2.55ghz runs at 28c idle.....no big deal...90nm chips from AMD all run rather cool...
 

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Wow, I just installed this bad little guy last night with stock AMD cooling. Case ambients aren't going to be the greatest, I have an old Enlight 7230 case, and the only addition I have is a single 40cfm exhaust fan in the back.

This little guy is just cool! The case ambient is 39°C!!! I have yet to monitor under load, but wow. Just wow!

Oh yeah, Sempron 2800+ (1.6ghz no OC.. yet).

How is your CPU idling at 26C when you say your ambient temp is 39C? Are you sure your temps are being read correctly?
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: Duvie
My 4400+X2 at 2.55ghz runs at 28c idle.....no big deal...90nm chips from AMD all run rather cool...

WOW! But is that on stock cooling?


No....And you should have also asked me what my ambient room and case temp...Room temp is 22c and the case is about 24c....

It does seem hard to believe you can have ambient temps of 38c period with that 26c cpu....that is 100.4f...Do you know what ambient temps are when we refer to them???? usually room temp or air temp inside case not necessarily measured by an onboard sensor...38c as an ambient temp would make it impossible to have a 26c cpu idle temp from a stock or even high end air cooler...So try again or start to figure out what you are looking at....

I would buy 26c as mobo temp and 38c as a cpu temp way before the other way around....

Take a screen pic of the monitoring app and let us look at it...Something is F'dup here...
 

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1
Interesting because my 2400+ Semphron @ 2.0 Ghz (from 1.67 stock) with the stock cooler runs at 36°C . . .

But yours isn't a 90nm Palermo core is it? :) Stock vCore @ 1.4v...

Yeah didn't realize it was a 90nm sempron . . . :p
 

Pr0d1gy

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My 3200+ Venice idles at 27 on stock cooling. The new AMD chips are uber efficient.
 

JEDIYoda

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well my Intel 3.2 EE is idleing at 27c.....with an ambient room temp of 23c

so go figure......

I get a 26c with the Zalman 9500....

:)
 

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: Duvie
My 4400+X2 at 2.55ghz runs at 28c idle.....no big deal...90nm chips from AMD all run rather cool...

WOW! But is that on stock cooling?


No....And you should have also asked me what my ambient room and case temp...Room temp is 22c and the case is about 24c....

It does seem hard to believe you can have ambient temps of 38c period with that 26c cpu....that is 100.4f...Do you know what ambient temps are when we refer to them???? usually room temp or air temp inside case not necessarily measured by an onboard sensor...38c as an ambient temp would make it impossible to have a 26c cpu idle temp from a stock or even high end air cooler...So try again or start to figure out what you are looking at....

I would buy 26c as mobo temp and 38c as a cpu temp way before the other way around....

Take a screen pic of the monitoring app and let us look at it...Something is F'dup here...

I would assume it was 26c as mobo and 38c as CPU as well....especially on the stock cooler.
 

JEDIYoda

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No....And you should have also asked me what my ambient room and case temp...Room temp is 22c and the case is about 24c....

It does seem hard to believe you can have ambient temps of 38c period with that 26c cpu....that is 100.4f...Do you know what ambient temps are when we refer to them???? usually room temp or air temp inside case not necessarily measured by an onboard sensor...38c as an ambient temp would make it impossible to have a 26c cpu idle temp from a stock or even high end air cooler...So try again or start to figure out what you are looking at....

I would buy 26c as mobo temp and 38c as a cpu temp way before the other way around....

Take a screen pic of the monitoring app and let us look at it...Something is F'dup here...

Exactly my thoughts it is relatively impossible to have a CPU temp of 26c if the ambient room temp is 38c; without having some major cooling via a form of liquid!!
 

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My old clawhammer 2800 runs at 40c with the fan set at 0 rpms using a zalman fan mate 2. It will kick in when gaming, but even then will sometimes remain off, while the temp rises to about 45c.
 

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I have no idea how you people are getting these insane (sub 30 degrees Celsius) CPU temps on air. I'm running water that's cool to the touch and it runs around 33-35 degrees idle. And it's nice and cool in my condo (about 70-75 degrees F). For those of you that claim that your processors are running 20-26 degrees, do you realize that 20 degrees C is 68 degrees F...and that there's no way that you're going to run your processor cooler than the ambient temperature inside your case? Are you guys running your cases with the side open with a box fan blowing on it right next to the air conditioning vent?

I would guess that your temperature sensors are way off or you're reading the wrong readings.
 

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I don't know the idle for my CPU. It hasn't been idle in about 3 weeks...but hey, load temps are like 58C i think at load. My temp sensor is borked X2 at stock volts+ Big Typhoon+ AS5 /= 60C load temps. So whatever. It was running stable at 67C a couple of days ago...
 

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Originally posted by: govtcheez75
I have no idea how you people are getting these insane (sub 30 degrees Celsius) CPU temps on air. I'm running water that's cool to the touch and it runs around 33-35 degrees idle. And it's nice and cool in my condo (about 70-75 degrees F). For those of you that claim that your processors are running 20-26 degrees, do you realize that 20 degrees C is 68 degrees F...and that there's no way that you're going to run your processor cooler than the ambient temperature inside your case? Are you guys running your cases with the side open with a box fan blowing on it right next to the air conditioning vent?

I would guess that your temperature sensors are way off or you're reading the wrong readings.

Currently my CPU is running (~20% load) at 29C, mobo temp is 31C, and room temp is 23C...
3200+ Venice core, stock cooling, no extra case fans, not overclocked
 

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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: govtcheez75
I have no idea how you people are getting these insane (sub 30 degrees Celsius) CPU temps on air. I'm running water that's cool to the touch and it runs around 33-35 degrees idle. And it's nice and cool in my condo (about 70-75 degrees F). For those of you that claim that your processors are running 20-26 degrees, do you realize that 20 degrees C is 68 degrees F...and that there's no way that you're going to run your processor cooler than the ambient temperature inside your case? Are you guys running your cases with the side open with a box fan blowing on it right next to the air conditioning vent?

I would guess that your temperature sensors are way off or you're reading the wrong readings.

Currently my CPU is running (~20% load) at 29C, mobo temp is 31C, and room temp is 23C...
3200+ Venice core, stock cooling, no extra case fans, not overclocked

that's pretty hard to believe, if it's accurate. I've owned many processors with many different cooling solutions and I have yet to come close to getting my processor temperatures anywhere near my room temperature...and DEFINITELY not lower than it. If you look at things logically, it doesn't make sense. Your Processor generates LOTS of heat. That heat is dissipated by the heatsink. Have you ever touched your heatsink? Many times, it's warm to the touch (meaning that it's warmer than the ambient room temperature. I've yet to encounter a heatsink that's attached to a running CPU actually feel cooler than the ambient room temperature.

So the claim is that some people in this thread is getting MUCH better idle temps with their stock heatsinks than me with about the same ambient room temperatures running under water (or with my XP-90 with a 90mm fan blowin 80-90CFM). Just doesn't compute in my head for some reason.
 

SunnyD

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nvMonitor says 22°C right now - that's idle after running for the last 2 hours. It also says system ambient is 34°C. It also depends on where exactly the temperature sensors are. The CPU sensor is in the CPU. If the "system" sensor is anywhere near the front edge of my motherboard, that could easily be a misread because my harddrives get quite warm (hot to touch actually - Seagate 7200.7's).
 

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
nvMonitor says 22°C right now - that's idle after running for the last 2 hours. It also says system ambient is 34°C. It also depends on where exactly the temperature sensors are. The CPU sensor is in the CPU. If the "system" sensor is anywhere near the front edge of my motherboard, that could easily be a misread because my harddrives get quite warm (hot to touch actually - Seagate 7200.7's).

Try touching near the bottom of your heatsink. Is it warm?
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: govtcheez75
Originally posted by: SunnyD
nvMonitor says 22°C right now - that's idle after running for the last 2 hours. It also says system ambient is 34°C. It also depends on where exactly the temperature sensors are. The CPU sensor is in the CPU. If the "system" sensor is anywhere near the front edge of my motherboard, that could easily be a misread because my harddrives get quite warm (hot to touch actually - Seagate 7200.7's).

Try touching near the bottom of your heatsink. Is it warm?



Mine is cool as can be and exhausted cse air is room temp...trust me I know what temp I am look at....

miobo temps should run 2c over ambient air if you have good case cooling....

Heck even as I load 2 instance of F@H for weeks on end the base is barely warm and it shows 51c...case air is still being exhausted at near room temp....