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andylawcc

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OS
I don't know much about vettes, last time I glanced at one, on thing I remember was the interior was poorly built. Coworkers dad owns one, will ask him how it's holding up.

yeah, the interior is pretty crappy for the C5. and I don't think the C6 is any better.

on the side note, Skyline's and Evo's interior is rather Spartan too. (well, Skyline's "Spartan" is still better than C5's "inferior grade")
 

OS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: OS
I don't know much about vettes, last time I glanced at one, on thing I remember was the interior was poorly built. Coworkers dad owns one, will ask him how it's holding up.

yeah, the interior is pretty crappy for the C5. and I don't think the C6 is any better.

on the side note, Skyline's and Evo's interior is rather Spartan too. (well, Skyline's "Spartan" is still better than C5's "inferior grade")

I've seen the evo's interior, it's simple but well built. I don't remember the C5 interior being well built, I was wondering how it would hold up after 5 years.
 

andylawcc

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Shawn
M45 Supercharger

anyone notice their graph is mislabeled?
http://www.jacksonracing.com/Graphics/Products/Large/999-280_1.jpg

Red line = Supercharged
Blue line (should be) = N/A

yeah, you're right.

and you want me to spend 3 grand on a company that can't even graph!

:) :p ;p

haha, anyway, I notice Jackson's Supercharger is more affordable than the others. Plus it is somewhat a brand name product, reliability should be better right?
 

Shawn

Lifer
Apr 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Shawn
M45 Supercharger

anyone notice their graph is mislabeled?
http://www.jacksonracing.com/Graphics/Products/Large/999-280_1.jpg

Red line = Supercharged
Blue line (should be) = N/A

yeah, you're right.

and you want me to spend 3 grand on a company that can't even graph!

:) :p ;p

haha, anyway, I notice Jackson's Supercharger is more affordable than the others. Plus it is somewhat a brand name product, reliability should be better right?

heh. well they don't even make the supercharger. they just make the kit so it'll bolt directly onto a miata. the supercharger itself is made by Eaton. Anyway I got a used kit which also came with this for only $1700. The reason it's cheaper in general though is because it's a smaller supercharger. The Eaton MP62 is a bigger supercharger and boosts at much lower rpms.
 

funboy6942

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: funboy42
Auto trader has alot of Corvettes in the Chicago area year 2000 and below for under $26K that needs nothing at all.

ok i looked again and there are a handful of C5s, ~50K miles, around 23K.

I don't know much about vettes, last time I glanced at one, on thing I remember was the interior was poorly built. Coworkers dad owns one, will ask him how it's holding up.

That can be fixed. You live in Cali Im sure there is places that can hook u up with killer seats. Also dont forget this is american Muscle. Parts will be much cheaper and if you dont fixx it your self will cost you alot less to get repaired. This is the same engine block they have been using for well over 30 years so I cant stress enough that a covette doesnt depreciate as much nor is really that much to maintain. My GMC van with the 350 SB same used in the Corvette just de tuned has over 100K miles on it and runs like the day it was new. Its all in how you take care of it.

The Corvette is easy to make your own style with body kits and engine hop ups jsut liek the Z350 but since it is a Chevy there is way more you can do with it that is much easier on the pocket book. And again Girls will flock to the Vette faster then a Z350 :D
You just mention Vette and money and Power comes to mind.

And Im sorry its the salesman in me coming out I jsut feel in your price range this would be your smarter choice for all aspecs. Plus the Corvette has been my ultamte car of choice since I was a kid. The only bad part for me is I have the money to get one but im to damn big to fit in it. They just didnt make it for the husky tall fellows like me who are 6'4 400 lbs. :p
 

andylawcc

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Shawn
heh. well they don't even make the supercharger. they just make the kit so it'll bolt directly onto a miata. the supercharger itself is made by Eaton.

so can I actually buy one from Eaton and have a shop to bolt it on instead?
 

Shawn

Lifer
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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: Shawn
heh. well they don't even make the supercharger. they just make the kit so it'll bolt directly onto a miata. the supercharger itself is made by Eaton.

so can I actually buy one from Eaton and have a shop to bolt it on instead?

not really. even if you could it'd probably cost 10x as much. these companies spend several months, even years developing a kit which will work best. then they mass produce them.
 

deepred98

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screw japenese cars save some more money and get a c6 z06
its as fast as a ferrari F430 for about 1/4 the price
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

You show me another 1.3 liter engine that can produce as much power as the 13b is capable of and I'll agree with you.

If you learn how the Wankels work, you wouldn't make such an uninformed statement.

Hint: either the 13b isn't 1.3L, or a 2.6L 4-stroke piston engine isn't 2.6L. They're measured differently, giving you the misleading displacement figure.

The "power per liter" argument is mainly used by import kiddies who don't understand much about engines. It's absolutely meaningless outside the minds of fanboys.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

The fact that it displaces 1.3L has nothing to do with anything, especially considering it's actually spinning three times as fast as the tach shows. You can consider it a 3.9L engine that less reliabile than a piston engine, doesn't last even half as long, burns oil, and gets about half the gas mileage that a Corvette does.

It's not spinning 3x as fast as the tach shows, it's spinning 1/3 as fast.


 

Nebor

Lifer
Jun 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

You show me another 1.3 liter engine that can produce as much power as the 13b is capable of and I'll agree with you.

If you learn how the Wankels work, you wouldn't make such an uninformed statement.

Hint: either the 13b isn't 1.3L, or a 2.6L 4-stroke piston engine isn't 2.6L. They're measured differently, giving you the misleading displacement figure.

AFAIK Mazda uses strange measuring for their 4-stroke engines as well, that's why they have 2.3l and 2.5l v6 engines.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

You show me another 1.3 liter engine that can produce as much power as the 13b is capable of and I'll agree with you.

If you learn how the Wankels work, you wouldn't make such an uninformed statement.

Hint: either the 13b isn't 1.3L, or a 2.6L 4-stroke piston engine isn't 2.6L. They're measured differently, giving you the misleading displacement figure.

AFAIK Mazda uses strange measuring for their 4-stroke engines as well, that's why they have 2.3l and 2.5l v6 engines.


I'm pretty sure they measure their 4 stroke engines in the conventional manner. The only problem is when you compare engines of different designs, such as comparing a 600cc 2-stroke engine to a 600cc 4-stroke engine. The 2-stroke will have twice as many power strokes per revolution, so it will have more power output. While a Wankel engine is technically a 4-stroke cycle, its design gives it the same number of "power strokes" as a 2-stroke engine.
 

Burkhead

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Go for one of the new mustangs, they have better style and speed than japanese cars, plus they have Full waranty's and cheaper repairs/maintenance.
 

Nebor

Lifer
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

You show me another 1.3 liter engine that can produce as much power as the 13b is capable of and I'll agree with you.

If you learn how the Wankels work, you wouldn't make such an uninformed statement.

Hint: either the 13b isn't 1.3L, or a 2.6L 4-stroke piston engine isn't 2.6L. They're measured differently, giving you the misleading displacement figure.

AFAIK Mazda uses strange measuring for their 4-stroke engines as well, that's why they have 2.3l and 2.5l v6 engines.


I'm pretty sure they measure their 4 stroke engines in the conventional manner. The only problem is when you compare engines of different designs, such as comparing a 600cc 2-stroke engine to a 600cc 4-stroke engine. The 2-stroke will have twice as many power strokes per revolution, so it will have more power output. While a Wankel engine is technically a 4-stroke cycle, its design gives it the same number of "power strokes" as a 2-stroke engine.

I just find it hard to believe that they actually make a 2.0l 4 cylinder and a 2.5l v6. It doesn't make sense.