250W PSU, need ideas

[Dominato3r]

Alright i need a video card for WAR, and right now i have a integrated chip. Not the best i know, but i cant afford anything moe then $100 ATM.

This is what i need

Support for pixel shader 2.0
support for vertex shder 2.0
able to work on a 250W PSU
Has to be PCI or PCI-E
Able to give me some good amount of frames.



My current system

CPU: E6300 @ 1.8ghz
GPU: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
RAM: 2gb DDR2
OS: Vista 32bit home

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Probably something light like a HD 34XX card or something... If you are lucky and it's good, it will pull something like a HD 4670... But that's doubtful. How many amps on the 12V rail do you have?

 

[Dominato3r]

ill check, but not many probably. Its a generic HP PSU >.>

 

[Dominato3r]

KK, it gives off about 22amps

 

[MarcVenice]

HD4670 might work, what else is in your rig?

 

[Dominato3r]

a 1.8ghz C2D
samsung 320gb HDD
only perifperals are a headset keyboard and mouse(wireless)

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
KK, it gives off about 22amps

it cant be 22 amps on the 12V because that would be 264 watts and you said the power supply was only a 250 watt unit. you already have a thread on getting the 4670 and you should be just fine based on the rest of your pc. your entire comp wouldnt even pull 150 watts under load with a 4670.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
KK, it gives off about 22amps

264 watts? on a 250 watt psu?

:/

 

[Dominato3r]

It says something like 20.31231231233 something like that. Sorry there was black glue on the sticker.

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
KK, it gives off about 22amps

what are you looking at? Not the PSU badge apparently 20Amps wouldn't be right either, and numbers are always given in WHOLE numbers

 

[happy medium]

If it's a Dell 250 watt psu, it's rated at about 16 amps (12v+ rail).
If that case you should be looking at a 8600gt.

 

[Dominato3r]

Out 250W
12V+= / 14a
12V+=/0.8a

 

[happy medium]

What is the game WAR ..I never heard of it.
Is it a dell psu? If so there underrated.

Edit. Oh I see its HP psu sorry.

The best I would go for with that psu is a 8500gt/8600gt.

It should easily double your fps speed. Integrated video sucks.

 

[Dominato3r]

Ah well the thing is i haven't entered the game yet =P it checks your system to see if it meets minimum reqs. If you dont it will stop in a critical error >.> I was vouching for a 4670 so i guess that wont work right?

 

[Andrew1990]

you can always jump on the EVGA 9600GSO deal for $60AR, then get a better PSU for around $30-40....

 

[happy medium]

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
Ah well the thing is i haven't entered the game yet =P it checks your system to see if it meets minimum reqs. If you dont it will stop in a critical error >.> I was vouching for a 4670 so i guess that wont work right?

4670 + 250 watt psu = poof!

Na I wouldn't try it.

 

[Dominato3r]

Can a 7900 or 7800 run ona 250W cause i really cant go higher then $100, and i really dont want to buy a new PSU.

 

[Andrew1990]

Originally posted by: Dominato3r
Can a 7900 or 7800 run ona 250W cause i really cant go higher then $100, and i really dont want to buy a new PSU.

No way in hell. An 8600GT would be pushing the limits on that PSU. An 8500GT should work though.

Installing a new PSU isnt that hard. Everything is basically color coded so you cant really go wrong.

 

[Dominato3r]

alright, cause if im going to have to replace the PSU, id rather just buy a high quality one and a good video card. =/

 

[happy medium]

Last I seen there was a Antech Eartwatts 500 watt on sale for 50 bucks at NewEgg. You can find a cheap 9600 gso/gt cheap also.

Good luck.

 

[Lonyo]

My X2 4200+/2GB RAM/3HDD's/HD4850 pulls only 250w from the wall under load, which means 200w system load. (assuming ~80% efficiency).

Anandtech's test using an HD4670 with QX9770 had the system only pulling 140w under load.

Where is all this power consumption going to come from exactly?

 

[Dominato3r]

Thats what im thinking. All the benchmarks show its pulling around 40-50W. I used a PSU calculator and a system like mines only pulls about less then 190W

 

[happy medium]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
My X2 4200+/2GB RAM/3HDD's/HD4850 pulls only 250w from the wall under load, which means 200w system load. (assuming ~80% efficiency).

Anandtech's test using an HD4670 with QX9770 had the system only pulling 140w under load.

Where is all this power consumption going to come from exactly?

My system was a Dell with a 250 watt psu that went poof . The psu did last about a week. My system is a single core with a 7800gs. It's not about the watts it's about the 12v+ rail amps and the efficiency of your psu.
I'm pretty sure Dell psu's are better then HP's as I hear they are underrated. So I have some real world experience with this.

I wouldn't take the chance.

 

[Dominato3r]

Alright, cine my other thread is barren i might aswell ask here. Im serious about the $100 thing so ive found this PSU

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22536

Its from logysis, if heard there name before but nver in PSU's. Coudl this support the HD4670 and
CPU: E6300 @ 1.8ghz
GPU: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
RAM: 2gb DDR2

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

9600 GSO 384mb $50 AR.

OCZ PSU 600w $55 AR

TOTAL- $105

Trust me, you need to replace your generic PSU. Free shipping on both.