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2500+ hsf unit?

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adams828

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hey, i'm looking to get a 2500+ and run it on the asus ASUS A7N8X board, but i was curious. i've never OC'd before, but i've read that the 2500+ will easily OC to 2.2 GHz. I probably won't push it that hard for my 1st OC, but i wondered if i want to OC to say 2.0 GHz, and eventually 2.2 GHz, is the stock hsf good enough, or do i need an aftermarket one? any reccomendations and/or places to find reviews? thanks
 
If you're going to overclock, the stock HS will only take you so far. Do yourself (and your ears) a favor and buy an aftermarket cooler. On this board, you'll find many lovers of Thermalright products and for good reason. SVC has a good selection at fine prices. Overclockers has a decent comparison chart but remember to watch what kind of fan is used and the noise level they make for each cooler tested.

Let me be the first to say it, because it will be said: the Thermalright SLK-900 (or 947) is awfully popular. It's also my weapon of choice for my Barton and A7N8X.

edit: damn, so I wasn't the first, but it was said😛
 
Originally posted by: Goatsan
even if you weren't going to overclock, i'd suggest never using the stock hsf
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why do people keep saying that? i've run stock hsfs (without doing any OC) and never had problems. i mean.. i don't think they'd sell them if they didnt' work for normal usage
 
Originally posted by: adams828
Originally posted by: Goatsan
even if you weren't going to overclock, i'd suggest never using the stock hsf
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why do people keep saying that? i've run stock hsfs (without doing any OC) and never had problems. i mean.. i don't think they'd sell them if they didnt' work for normal usage
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Well, that's the Intel guys speaking from their past experience with the Intel heatsinks. The AMD retail (i.e.-free) heatsinks are alright, even for mild overclocking. I run my daughter's XP1700 Palomino@ roughly 100 Mhz over stock speed, with stock voltage, and the stock hsf, and it only runs 4*C higher under load than it ran at stock speed. I'm sure it would be able to handle at least a 200 Mhz OC, if she had faster ram.
 
Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
AMD's newer HSF isn't half bad. It's actually pretty good for stock. It now has a copper base and isn't that loud.
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i got a retail XP2500+ last month and it came with an aluminum hs...havent heard anything about stock copper ones from amd. got a linky?
 
I got my 2500+ in August, and my retail HSF has a copper base and very small quiet fan. I actually overclocked it to a 2800+ for a day, and the temps stayed below 60 celcius. I clocked it back to stock speeds until I get a more powerful HSF to take it to at least 3200+ speeds.
 
Originally posted by: seepy83

i got a retail XP2500+ last month and it came with an aluminum hs...havent heard anything about stock copper ones from amd. got a linky?
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The main part of the unit is still Aluminum, only the base is copper.
 
Cool, sounds like SLK900 is a good unit (although I can't say I love the price tag..) So any reccomendations of fans to put on it? Or any cooler options that are more around $20ish?

Oh, and any sites that explains step-by-step how to install this? (like w/the thermal goo and all)?
 
Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
Originally posted by: seepy83

i got a retail XP2500+ last month and it came with an aluminum hs...havent heard anything about stock copper ones from amd. got a linky?
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The main part of the unit is still Aluminum, only the base is copper.
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well mine is definatly all aluminum. now i'm kinda curious...when i get some free time i think i'll take the hs/f off to see what stepping i have and what week it was manufactured.
 
Originally posted by: adams828
Cool, sounds like SLK900 is a good unit (although I can't say I love the price tag..) So any reccomendations of fans to put on it? Or any cooler options that are more around $20ish?

Oh, and any sites that explains step-by-step how to install this? (like w/the thermal goo and all)?
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Originally posted by: seepy83
Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
Originally posted by: seepy83

i got a retail XP2500+ last month and it came with an aluminum hs...havent heard anything about stock copper ones from amd. got a linky?
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The main part of the unit is still Aluminum, only the base is copper.
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well mine is definatly all aluminum. now i'm kinda curious...when i get some free time i think i'll take the hs/f off to see what stepping i have and what week it was manufactured.
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If it has a silverish plate screwed on the bottom, it's a zinc-plated copper plate. If you really want to you can sand it off. Just be aware that it voids your warranty.
 
ok just curious (after reading the thread about removing hsfs...) i was thinking about using the stock hsf until i planned to OC. but now i'm worried that it will get "stuck" to the cpu. is there that musch risk of this, or should i suck it up and pay $40 for aftermarket hsf now?
 
The "stuck" HSF problem is an Intel problem. The thermal compound on AMD Fans won't cause the problem. You could also remove the phase change goop AMD puts on the heatsink and use thermal grease or Arctic Silver.

 
My opinion,.... I don't think any 2500+ out there will overclock so much that you couldn't get by with a stock hsf. Now that is not to say that an after market hsf will not cool better, just that I don't really think the 7 - 12 C difference is going to make all that much difference.
Of course thats just my opinion,....and I have been wrong before.
Now do I use a stock hsf? Nah,.. I got 9 C. cooler by using an Aero 7+, and that big @!# fan looks impressive. That is why cases have see through sides isn't it ;-)
 
Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
Originally posted by: seepy83

i got a retail XP2500+ last month and it came with an aluminum hs...havent heard anything about stock copper ones from amd. got a linky?
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The main part of the unit is still Aluminum, only the base is copper.
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yeah. the little fan pushes alot of air. it's pretty quiet too.


i want to test temps with stock vs. slk 800 / 80mm panaflo but if too lazy.
 
Originally posted by: 11427
My opinion,.... I don't think any 2500+ out there will overclock so much that you couldn't get by with a stock hsf. Now that is not to say that an after market hsf will not cool better, just that I don't really think the 7 - 12 C difference is going to make all that much difference.
Of course thats just my opinion,....and I have been wrong before.
Now do I use a stock hsf? Nah,.. I got 9 C. cooler by using an Aero 7+, and that big @!# fan looks impressive. That is why cases have see through sides isn't it ;-)
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So you don't think that a 12°C drop in temp is worth the money? Wow, you and my dad would get along great!
 
Originally posted by: adams828
ok just curious (after reading the thread about removing hsfs...) i was thinking about using the stock hsf until i planned to OC. but now i'm worried that it will get "stuck" to the cpu. is there that musch risk of this, or should i suck it up and pay $40 for aftermarket hsf now?
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I think you'd probably be okay, even with some OCing, as long as you apply some Artic Silver, or other silver-based thermal compound. Especially since the new AMD hsf's have a copper base. That is too cool! When I said in my earlier post that I was pretty sure that the stock hsf would handle a 200Mhz OC, I was talking about the older (a year ago) AMD hsf's.
 
So you don't think that a 12°C drop in temp is worth the money? Wow, you and my dad would get along great!
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Nope,... didn't say that. All I'm saying is that "I don't think any 2500+ will OC enough to NEED more than the stock hsf." As for long life, and a cooler cpu, I DO think there is a benefit to spending the cash for an after market hsf.
 
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