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$250 replacement for a Radeon HD 4890 (Edit: Made my choice)

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Ime said:
2) It's about 20% less performance than the 6950, but is also 20% cheaper after rebate,
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4137/...-6950-1gb-xfxs-radeon-hd-6870-black-edition/5

To backup your claim, the performance difference is variable, but according to Anandtech's benchmarks there's never a 20% gap. The 6950 ranges from 5-18% faster. In DX9/DX10 games the gap is lower. DX11 games are where the 6950 is correspondingly faster. In Metro and Stalker the 6950 ends up 16% and 18% faster, respectively. So you didn't make a bad choice, although in the next step up in price and performance I would have recommended a 2GB 6950 or 560 as opposed to a 1GB card.
 
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Noooo! you shoulda gotten a 560 Ti. It out performs 6870 in almost every game and is within your budget, unless they are really selling the 6870 cheap.
 
Your SERIOUSLY paying the same money for a 6870 then a Asus GTX 560?

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I've seen a few 6870s for $200 after rebate. A $50 price difference is nothing to dismiss, and you can always OC the 6870 (and almost every other card).

Personally I would have ponied up a little bit more to get a 6950, and then flash it to a 6970.
 
Arkainium said:
FYI, the Black Edition in your link doesn't appear (based on the pictures) to be the same as the Black Edition in the article. I think this is the one that you want: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150520
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beat me to it 🙂

OP, FWIW, newegg does sell the 6780 BE that appears in the AT article (as linked in the above quote) - newegg simply decided not to include "Black Edition" in the product title, which is beyond me, b/c if you look at the product pictures, it says Black Edition on the card lol. at any rate, the 6780 you're looking at is an XFX 6780 BE, but as Arkainium stated above, it is most definitely NOT the more recent quiet version of the XFX 6780 BE w/ the two-fan heatsink...just a heads-up.
 
He could have picked a more reasonably priced 6870. I still have one available for 189.99 with free shipping. Damn tempting at that price.
 
Well... did you guys (actually, just happy) fail to read why he picked it? First, you're pretty much wrong because the price/performance is right in line; there is nothing outrageous about his choice there. That 560 is about 10% faster and it costs about 10% more. [At $190 a 6870 is actually a much better price/performance than a 560 - even better than if you were comparing the 560 to a 6950. SO THE 6870 MUST BE THE BEST CARD IN THE WORLD!]

But this doesn't even matter that much. He is getting a card with a lifetime warranty, and even though he linked to the wrong one, he wanted the card with the aftermarket XFX cooler (which costs the same as the other Black Edition). These two things are intangibles which aren't reflected in price/performance. And this is exactly why I hate when price/performance is stripped down to only two criteria and used as a fixed, hard metric. It isn't a fixed, hard metric.
 
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GTX 470 being faster than HD 5870? HappyMedium, please, read the newest reviews of videocards and you will see that ATi's HD 5870 aged better. The same thing will happen to the HD 6950 in which will widen the gap against the GTX 560. Saying that the GTX 470 is faster than the HD 5870 would means that it ties the HD 6950 which is a total lie. At $249.00, the HD 6950 is a better buy than even an overclocked GTX 560 which overclocked, barely outperforms the stock HD 6950. Overclocking and unlocking the HD 6950 will put on closer to the GTX 580 that the GTX 560 could only dream.

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=22610&all=1
 
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evolucion8 said:
GTX 470 being faster than HD 5870? HappyMedium, please, read the newest reviews of videocards and you will see that ATi's HD 5870 aged better. The same thing will happen to the HD 6950 in which will widen the gap against the GTX 560. Saying that the GTX 470 is faster than the HD 5870 would means that it ties the HD 6950 which is a total lie. At $249.00, the HD 6950 is a better buy than even an overclocked GTX 560 which overclocked, barely outperforms the stock HD 6950. Overclocking and unlocking the HD 6950 will put on closer to the GTX 580 that the GTX 560 could only dream.
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The charts are for the game WOW and the gtx470 is faster. I used that as a example for the OP because he said that game.😕
 
No sale today for Nvidia fanboys! You should just just cross OP's name in your book for now...

Good choice OP! I'm also considering the same card(well two of them actually).
 
cusideabelincoln said:
These two things are intangibles which aren't reflected in price/performance. And this is exactly why I hate when price/performance is stripped down to only two criteria and used as a fixed, hard metric. It isn't a fixed, hard metric.
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Agreed. Honestly, the most useful metric is going to be Willingness to Pay. WTP can account for intangibles that the quantitative analysis (price / some aggregate performance number) will never give you. This is true for things like Eyefinity, PhysX, CUDA, Stream, 3D Vision, etc.
 
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