"$250/mo for health care for my family? Are you kidding me! That's almost as much as my boat payment!"

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: Skoorb
People in the US should realize that healthcare is expensive and it deserves to be. You might pay $500 for a car payment, well you shouldn't be surprised to pay a lot for healthcare. After all healthcare isn't delivered by people making $25/hour working on a factory line like your car. There is by necessity vast amounts of money and training involved in delivering top-tier healthcare. It is probably too expensive now, but somebody asked the question "What is reasonable" and despite there being no clear answer we intuitively know what is and isn't. Expecting it to be $100/month for a family, for example, is not reasonable and neither is $1500/month.

25/hour on a factory line??? lmfao more like 8-10 hour

/tangent

As usual, you're wrong. Un-skilled auto assembly line workers (UAW) make an average of roughly $28/hour in take-home wages. The actual labor costs -- which is a total of all additional benefits given to each worker, including health coverage -- are often over $80/hr.

Also quite often, the same workers receive double and triple-time pay, per hour, when they work overtime, or on holidays.

Welcome to 2009. Enjoy your stay.

I am not talking about overpaid auto workers, I was referring to factor workers in general. I should been more specific. In actuality it is a VERY small percentage of people that make that kind of money in a factory.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Numbnuts I am not talking about overpaid auto workers, I was referring to factor workers in general.

skoorb's line that you were 'correcting' was about auto workers.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Ausm

Numbnuts I am not talking about overpaid auto workers, I was referring to factor workers in general.

skoorb's line that you were 'correcting' was about auto workers.

Fixed I should have been more specific in my reply.

 

[BassBomb]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: BassBomb
What is copay?

Are you serious?

Very... I don't pay for health insurance so I haven't a clue what that means.

What? We copay up here in Canada too, you know.

I've just never heard the term before. I looked it up now

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: BassBomb

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: BassBomb
What is copay?

Are you serious?

Very... I don't pay for health insurance so I haven't a clue what that means.

What? We copay up here in Canada too, you know.

I've just never heard the term before. I looked it up now

Copay and deductibles in normal insurance plans go up every year while the coverage gets less that is all you really have to know

 

[Pulsar]

Originally posted by: thegimp03
The article points out flaws with offering government-funded health insurance. You can't deny that there is something inherently wrong when people who fall into these low income plans suddenly have the ability to buy expensive electronics, SUV's, and chrome wheels - definitely luxury goods which don't speak to a person who is "low income" at all. These people lack in financial management skills, but why do people who manage their money better have to pay for idiots who fall under low income plans?

Flaws? You mean like somehow "promoting the welfare" in the constitution became "providing for everyone who can't provide for themselves"?