25 drunk frat boys tried to jump me and some friends... advice?

datalink7

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Some friends and I went to a couple of parties last night, and they pretty much sucked. I didn't do any drinking as I was the Designated Driver. We were then going home and were passing by this frat house. Some girls on the front porch were like "whats going on boys? Come up here." So we stopped (there were about 8 of us) and got invited in after a bit by the sorority girls (I guess it was a closed party and they weren't actually supposed to do that). But the party sucked inside and so we left.

I guess some other guy got in a fight as we were leaving and broke a window. We were about half a block away when the window got broken. We were almost to our cars (a block away from the frat) when a bunch of frat boys come running out saying "you broke our fvcking window!!" and stuff like that. There were about 10 of them and 8 of us at that point. We decied to talk them down. We got it so it was cool and everything, were about to get in our cars, when the second wave of frat boys arrived. About 15 showed up in the second wave. And a lot of them were drunk. Well, now we were outnumbered 25 or so to 8. And some of them had sticks and pipes and stuff. So we are like "oh sh!t" and try to talk them down (AGAIN, after we were already cool with the first group). We get in the car and start to drive off (4 of us), but see that the other 4 weren't able to get into their car because the frat boys surrounded them.

So I drive back (can't leave your bro's behind), and we start trying to talk them down. Then one of them yells "he did it!!" and points to my friend in the passengers seat. The two friends in the back had gotten out of the car at this point to try to talk to them. The frat boys start pounding on the windows and rocking the car. They were really getting a mob mentality here. One of my friends who got out yells "get the fvck out we are alright." So I hit floor the gas before they bring their pipe up to break the window. There was this stupid guy in front but he got out of the way REAL quick (he had initially been standing there with his arms crossed like he was going to stop the car
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). We called the cops on the cell and they came and all the frat boys ran away real quick.

It was a pretty freaky experience, but what I am wondering is if I should just let it drop or take any kind of action, or even what kind of action I should take? Would just dropping it be the best cource of action? I don't know why they decided to blame us. We didn't even get the whole story on the window breaking. I guess some guy got in a fight, left, and broke a window or something. They decided to blame us I guess because we were a big group they saw when they came out the front door. But we were half a block away and weren't even running or anything. Just going to our cars to go home.
 

UberDave

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don't worry, they won't remember it tomorrow. Just drop it. The cops know whats up :)
 

vi edit

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I'd report them to the campus organization responsible for granting permission for fraternities to form. It's possible they are already on probation and the organization would provide a much better punishment than any police officer.
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'd report them to the campus organization responsible for granting permission for fraternities to form. It's possible they are already on probation and the organization would provide a much better punishment than any police officer.
The only thing I'd wonder is if the campus has any authority over this; on the UW campus, at least, the fraternities are off campus, and the UW doesn't have much, if any, authority over them.

Either way, I'd probably drop it, but your story is the biggest reason I never find myself at frat parties. They suck. :p

Rob
 

amnesiac

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Report the incident to the following (some work to find the numbers may be involved)

- President of that fraternity
- School administration
- Greek administration
- Campus Police
- School Paper

You have plenty of witnesses to back you up.
Chances are you will receive an apology from the fraternity and Greek housing board, and the fraternity will get admonished for allowing their members to do that.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
Report the incident to the following (some work to find the numbers may be involved)

- President of that fraternity
- School administration
- Greek administration
- Campus Police
- School Paper

You have plenty of witnesses to back you up.
Chances are you will receive an apology from the fraternity and Greek housing board, and the fraternity will get admonished for allowing their members to do that.

Yah, this might be a good option. But is is worth it really, instead of just dropping it?

BTW... the "Campus Police" are the State Police. We have a nuclear reactor on campus and by federal law there has to be a 5 minute armed response time on it or something. So we get the State Police as campus police :p
 

MrBond

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At my college, even if the greek orginazation has an off campus house, they still have an on camps presence (ie: they participate in greek consoles, etc), and could still be punished by the university.

There was a frat that was off campus last year that just lost their charter because they couldn't lay off the booze and wild parties. There is usually some sort of national office that oversees all of that particular frat's campus units, so you could possibly report it to them too.

The university/national office will probably not take action without some sort of police report though, and it is your word against theirs. And if several of the people in your party were drinking, it's not going to help your case (even more so if they were underage).

Honestly, it's probably your best bet to just let it slide as long as no damage was done. Frats are notoriously close knit, chances are someone there was sober and they've already had almost a whole day to organize their cover stories for each other.

And in the future, don't party with them.
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
Report the incident to the following (some work to find the numbers may be involved)

- President of that fraternity
- School administration
- Greek administration
- Campus Police
- School Paper

You have plenty of witnesses to back you up.
Chances are you will receive an apology from the fraternity and Greek housing board, and the fraternity will get admonished for allowing their members to do that.

Yah, this might be a good option. But is is worth it really, instead of just dropping it?

BTW... the "Campus Police" are the State Police. We have a nuclear reactor on campus and by federal law there has to be a 5 minute armed response time on it or something. So we get the State Police as campus police :p

Yes, it's worth it. Let the fsckers get away with it and someone might actually get hurt next time.
I hate frat boys.
Can't believe I used to be one of them, either. :|
 

Orsorum

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The UW has a large amount of authority over the frats, actually. I can ask my boss who to contact, but for the moment, I'd call the police and say you were assaulted; if you can name the specific house, specific physical details of any of the guys, etc, that would help.

EDIT: You don't go to the UW, do you... :p

Call the police, and talk to someone in administration. The frats operate only with the permission of the university, anyway, and their privilege (charter?) can be revoked.
 

Grminalac

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Was it Penn State? I attended there and they had a nuclear reactor on campus. Of course this is homecoming, I'm sure thats why everyone was out and acting like an idiot.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: Grminalac
Was it Penn State? I attended there and they had a nuclear reactor on campus. Of course this is homecoming, I'm sure thats why everyone was out and acting like an idiot.

I go to Oregon State.
 

TNTrulez

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Originally posted by: hammer09
just kill one of them as an example and the rest will back off.

Yep. If that doesn't work, kill a couple more and see what happens to the crowd. Chances are they will be all gone after the first gun shot anyways.
 

HamSupLo

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Remember that news story about that dude that got beaten to death by a bunch of kids? If I see a mob of drunken frat guys, i'm running.
 

tcsenter

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Well, you're lucky, I've seen this happen a few times and the people didn't get away with just a broken window. I distinctly remember one incident where a bottle was thrown, I did NOT see the bottle thrown, but I did see its trajectory out of the corner of my eye and it could not have come from the car that would eventually be blamed for it. But someone shouted 'it came from that guy's car', and about 10 people mobbed the guy's car and began beating the driver and passenger through the windows, trying to drag them out of the car.

The guy managed to get his car started and in gear but there were other cars in his path of escape. What choice did he have, really, so he guns it and crashes into several cars on the way out of the parking lot and hits a few people injuring them, then speeds off. I called the police later that night and told them this guy had no other choice because about 20 more people were starting to surround the car, many of them with bats, tire irons, clubs, bottles, chains, 2 x 4's. Given the part of town we were in, I have no doubt there were a few guns floating around.