z1ggy

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Viking? Wha?

(I think I transliterated that right? My Rusky is a bit rusty)
 

CraKaJaX

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Had a layover in Moscow back in March.

Learned a few things:

1. Never miss out on Russian Vodka samples in the airport
2. Russian chicks. Yum.
3. I will never be able to understand the Russian language. EVER.
 

z1ggy

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Had a layover in Moscow back in March.

Learned a few things:

1. Never miss out on Russian Vodka samples in the airport
2. Russian chicks. Yum.
3. I will never be able to understand the Russian language. EVER.

Cyrillic makes 0% sense to me, but I've managed to memorize most of the letters. I mean, what kind of letter is the "ch" sound that looks like some kind of radioactive butterfly? Who invents that stuff?

O wait they were probably drunk.
 

CraKaJaX

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Cyrillic makes 0% sense to me, but I've managed to memorize most of the letters. I mean, what kind of letter is the "ch" sound that looks like some kind of radioactive butterfly? Who invents that stuff?

O wait they were probably drunk.

Theta and phi are angles. Always. They definitely were drunk when someone decided to make that part of a word.

æŒøř

Ahhhhh yes, I believe that says 'vodka'. I'll have another.
 

z1ggy

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Theta and phi are angles. Always. They definitely were drunk when someone decided to make that part of a word.

æŒøř

Ahhhhh yes, I believe that says 'vodka'. I'll have another.

O you mean B-o-squiggly smush D-k-a?

AND WHICH ONE OF THEM DECIDED THAT C=S? AND THAT P=R? >:-0
 

NetWareHead

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O you mean B-o-squiggly smush D-k-a?

AND WHICH ONE OF THEM DECIDED THAT C=S? AND THAT P=R? >:-0

Brother St. Cyril and St. Methodius devised he Glagolithic alphabet which later become the Cyrillic script. He drew from the Greek alphabet heavily.

Being closer to and influenced more by the Byzantine Greeks than Rome, in Greek the "S" sound is represented by the character Sigma, which looks like a backwards number 3. Except when at the end of a word where it takes the form of a character that looks like letter c. This c looking character was adopted to be the S sound in Cyrillic represented by a C character.

Same with the R sound is represented by a direct copy of the Greek letter Rho which is written with the P character.

Basically if you can read Greek, you can read probably 75% of Cyrillic phonetically; even if you dont enderstand what you are reading you could probably still sound it out. There are some characters in Cyrillic that are not found in Latin or Greek alphabet to creates sounds specific to Slavic languages.
 

Ken g6

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Ah, so now I can say with sincerity that that video may be in Russian, but it's Greek to me. :p
 

z1ggy

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Brother St. Cyril and St. Methodius devised he Glagolithic alphabet which later become the Cyrillic script. He drew from the Greek alphabet heavily.

Being closer to and influenced more by the Byzantine Greeks than Rome, in Greek the "S" sound is represented by the character Sigma, which looks like a backwards number 3. Except when at the end of a word where it takes the form of a character that looks like letter c. This c looking character was adopted to be the S sound in Cyrillic represented by a C character.

Same with the R sound is represented by a direct copy of the Greek letter Rho which is written with the P character.

Basically if you can read Greek, you can read probably 75% of Cyrillic phonetically; even if you dont enderstand what you are reading you could probably still sound it out. There are some characters in Cyrillic that are not found in Latin or Greek alphabet to creates sounds specific to Slavic languages.
Cool to know!

I wouldn't say 75% though. I was in a frat and had to memorize the Greek alphabet or face many hundreds of push ups... I def couldn't not just look at a word in Russian and sound it out without having had studied the alphabet first. They have a bunch of letters that look like shapes, or upside down/mirrored Latin letters, etc. Plus, the pronunciation of shared letters say, like B for example, (pronounced as "V") would throw somebody off.
 

Rakehellion

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Had a layover in Moscow back in March.

Learned a few things:

1. Never miss out on Russian Vodka samples in the airport
2. Russian chicks. Yum.
3. I will never be able to understand the Russian language. EVER.

Vodka samples?
 

Rakehellion

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I'd say the rest of the world behaves this way and its USA that has this puritanical attitude concerning alcohol. I've been offered samples of liquor in Mexican, Domenican and Jamaican liquor stores.

In liquor stores, yes. In airport lobbies, not so much.
 

NetWareHead

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In liquor stores, yes. In airport lobbies, not so much.

I was talking about liquor stores located in the airport as well as outside the airport. No problems giving free samples, usually a 1/4 to 1/2 shot a time. You wont get drunk but you will walk out of there feeling quite nice.
 

destrekor

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Brother St. Cyril and St. Methodius devised he Glagolithic alphabet which later become the Cyrillic script. He drew from the Greek alphabet heavily.

Being closer to and influenced more by the Byzantine Greeks than Rome, in Greek the "S" sound is represented by the character Sigma, which looks like a backwards number 3. Except when at the end of a word where it takes the form of a character that looks like letter c. This c looking character was adopted to be the S sound in Cyrillic represented by a C character.

Same with the R sound is represented by a direct copy of the Greek letter Rho which is written with the P character.

Basically if you can read Greek, you can read probably 75% of Cyrillic phonetically; even if you dont enderstand what you are reading you could probably still sound it out. There are some characters in Cyrillic that are not found in Latin or Greek alphabet to creates sounds specific to Slavic languages.

I love the Cyrillic alphabet. I enjoyed learning the language but it was at a time in my life (college) where I was not at my best and was not interested in difficult things. And learning Russian is definitely high on the list of difficult things. Especially for one who just does NOT get the full grammatical rules and constructs of a proper multi-case system (of which English is a bastard language when it comes to the case system - no wonder it must be so hard for people to learn ESL)... and then combine that with not really putting any effort into it. Yeah, I got bad grades. lol

I love the language though, love the way it sounds, love the alphabet, and enjoy studying the culture. But it's tough now to work up the motivation to try and learn the language now, as there is absolutely zero need for me to know Russian.
 

NetWareHead

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I love the language though, love the way it sounds, love the alphabet, and enjoy studying the culture. But it's tough now to work up the motivation to try and learn the language now, as there is absolutely zero need for me to know Russian.

Yeah I like it too, its a language that to me sounds like so many illogical syllables connected to one another to form...Russian. Ive been used to Latin based languages my entire life and English, and perhaps this is why Russian sounds so foriegn yet interesting to me. Shit just looks cool written in Cyrillic IMO and I can read it; sounding out Russian words even if I dont know what I'm pronouncing.
 

zinfamous

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maybe 2 minutes too long, but that was a badass preview and this film, whatever it is, looks gorgeous.

If the story and script aren't shite, this could be very good. I recognize some talented faces in those shots. Is one of those dudes the Eomar guy from lord of the rings?

what is that and when can I see it?
 

destrekor

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Yeah I like it too, its a language that to me sounds like so many illogical syllables connected to one another to form...Russian. Ive been used to Latin based languages my entire life and English, and perhaps this is why Russian sounds so foriegn yet interesting to me. Shit just looks cool written in Cyrillic IMO and I can read it; sounding out Russian words even if I dont know what I'm pronouncing.

I think it is the same for me in every way. It's so exotic and yet more approachable than other scripts, such as the Arabic script family and the logographic scripts of East Asia.

And from my classes, I have at least taken away the ability to read the language, but in many cases I won't know what is being said, or I'll understand the nominal case of a word but get completely lost in determining the actual sentence structure to grasp the meaning. And don't even bother asking me to translate spoken Russian or speak it. lol
 

destrekor

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Also, damn, that looks good!

Russia's movie production quality has been making some great progress in recent years.
 

ImpulsE69

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So is this Aliens vs. Vikings? You would think so with the Alien/Prometheus trailer music.

Otherwise, movie looks sweet.