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23" LED, IPS, or 120Hz? Or 26"

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jaydee

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What would be your monitor preference and why? I currently have a 20" 1650x1080 LCD, and am looking at getting a second monitor, and am just not sure what I want. I could fathomably spend $300, but I'd rather not unless I'm really persuaded I need to spend that much. I don't game currently, might get into again at some point, but I don't want that to be part of the equation right now. I do some CAD work, otherwise just office spreadsheets, internet browsing, maybe some movies (eventually will get a blue-ray drive). I'm looking to buy in the October-December timeframe, not in any real hurry. If there's something great on the horizon, let me know. Here are what I'm looking at right now (links are just examples, am open to other brands and other vendors):


+ 23" 1920x1080, TN panel, 60Hz, no LED ~$170: 0% price premium http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236052

+ 23" 1920x1080, TN panel, 60Hz, LED-backlit ~$210: 33% price premium http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236095

+ 23" 1920x1080, TN panel, 120 Hz LCD, no LED ~??? Hard to find.

+ 26" 1920 x 1200, TN, panel, 60Hz, no LED ~$280 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236047

+ 23" 1920x1080, IPS panel, 60Hz, no LED ~$280: 80% price premium


I could save money and just get a regular LCD.

I'm leaning towards the LED backlit. Right now my current LCD has an annoying criss-cross pattern of light coming from the corners and from what I know, the LED solves that. Secondly, it's thinner and comes with an external power brick, which I prefer as well. And it's only $40 more than a traditional LCD.

I just threw the 120Hz in there in case someone had some thoughts. Haven't really found one that I'd seriously consider. And I don't game, so this "tearing" issue of 60Hz LCD's does not apply and I don't know of any other tangible advantage.

The 26" 1920 x 1200 is tempting for the extra horizontal pixels, but again, seems like a lot of money for just 120 more lines of resolution. Also afraid that the 26" won't look as sharp as 23/24".

IPS is relatively expensive, and for my purposes, the viewing angle advantage means nothing. Better/truer colors, meh. DisplayPort is an advantage, if I want to do EyeFinity in the future, but cheaper adaptors are starting to come out finally, so even that isn't that big of a deal.
 
I really wish there were monitors using both IPS panels AND LED lighting. It's really weird that there aren't...like Dell's Ultrasharp one or whatever their current high end one is sounds really good...except it uses florescent lighting :-/

Anyway, for myself personally, LED is a requirement for a variety of reasons (including lack of mercury, uv radiation, how long they last, lack of dimming over time, etc.), so I'm stuck with TN panels.

I was just searching Newegg's selections yesterday, and it took me a while but Samsung has a couple of 24" monitors with LED lighting too, though the one is poorly reviewed on Amazon, and the other supposedly isn't HDCP compliant.

Dell's got both a 23 and 24" one with LED lighting-didn't find the 24" one until this morning (both Dell and Amazon are really hard to search on!)

I've currently got Dell's LED lit G2210, which for being a TN panel I'm happy with, so between that and the generally positive review on Anandtech, I'm assuming the G2410H is a safe bet too. I just wish I could get it with more ports and goodies + IPS...
 
Wolfpup said:
I really wish there were monitors using both IPS panels AND LED lighting. It's really weird that there aren't...like Dell's Ultrasharp one or whatever their current high end one is sounds really good...except it uses florescent lighting :-/

Anyway, for myself personally, LED is a requirement for a variety of reasons (including lack of mercury, uv radiation, how long they last, lack of dimming over time, etc.), so I'm stuck with TN panels.

I was just searching Newegg's selections yesterday, and it took me a while but Samsung has a couple of 24" monitors with LED lighting too, though the one is poorly reviewed on Amazon, and the other supposedly isn't HDCP compliant.

Dell's got both a 23 and 24" one with LED lighting-didn't find the 24" one until this morning (both Dell and Amazon are really hard to search on!)

I've currently got Dell's LED lit G2210, which for being a TN panel I'm happy with, so between that and the generally positive review on Anandtech, I'm assuming the G2410H is a safe bet too. I just wish I could get it with more ports and goodies + IPS...
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apple cinema?
 
Jaydee.. hi. 🙂 Let's see... you've said that you are already leaning towards LED backlight, and have also stated that you don't care too much about colour reproduction or viewing angles. So out of the ones you listed, I would choose the second one. The Asus monitors are very good ones, from what I've read and $210 for a monitor that size is a very good deal, IMO.
 
if you don't mind buying some old tech, geeks has the hp L2335 S-IPS for 200$ new, 1920x1200 23" although i dunno if they're an authorized reseller (for warranty issues) http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthr...id=0&t=2228099
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I don't mind that it's old tech. The problem is, it doesn't appear to be HDCP compliant. Also, I want more than one digital output.


Jaydee.. hi. Let's see... you've said that you are already leaning towards LED backlight, and have also stated that you don't care too much about colour reproduction or viewing angles. So out of the ones you listed, I would choose the second one. The Asus monitors are very good ones, from what I've read and $210 for a monitor that size is a very good deal, IMO.
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Ya, that's the one I'm leaning towards right now, but I'm not in love with it. It's only 1920x1080, has a large bezel and I didn't see a VESA mount on the back in pictures on newegg. Guess I'll keep looking.

I really want to see 1980x1200 + LED backlit + HDMI/HDCP compliant + small bezel for ~$200-225. I'd pay more (~$300-325) for IPS and DisplayPort.
 
I'm in the same boat. I'm expecting delivery of this Asus LS248H in a few hours and was about to refuse delivery because it lacked a VESA mount. But it's a pimpingly sweet spec'ed display. We'll see if I love it enough to keep it at a 15% restocking fee.

Edit. It's pretty sweet minus the ability to mount on the wall, I'm gonna keep it.
 
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I thought I'd post some information that was asked about earlier in the thread. There does seem to be at least one nonapple LED IPS option, NEC EA232WMi. The only problem is, with a response time of 16, its not much of a gaming monitor, though reviews talk well of it in other regards. I wonder if there are other LED IPS monitors out there too.

BTW, LEDs are LCD too, its a weird name marketing thing, like how PC sales people call ones computer, a CPU, where they use computer to mean computer, plus monitor, keyboard, mouse and other stuff. Or how they use PC to mean IBM clone, but don't consider apple computers to be PCs, even though PC stands for personal computer. Or how those bicycle speedometer are called computers.
 
truepurple said:
BTW, LEDs are LCD too, its a weird name marketing thing, like how PC sales people call ones computer, a CPU, where they use computer to mean computer, plus monitor, keyboard, mouse and other stuff. Or how they use PC to mean IBM clone, but don't consider apple computers to be PCs, even though PC stands for personal computer. Or how those bicycle speedometer are called computers.
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That's because these people don't have a large enough brain to say "LED-backlit LCD". The previous thing everyone just called an "LCD" actually is referring to a "CCFL-backlit LCD".

CCFL backlighting can still be better than LED in many situations, most of which are not marketable to people who think monitors should be $150.

To the OP: LED backlighting does not neccessarily solve the light leakage you're seeing on your monitor. That's just crummy design, which can happen with any backlight technology.

My 46" LED-backlit Samsung TV has weird leakage, worse than I've seen on CCFL-backlit screens. It's not an X-shaped pattern, it's kind of a blob on one side that trails off towards the other side. Fortunately, the LED dynamic contrast is so insanely fast you can only see the leakage while sitting in a black room watching a black picture with a white dot on the screen (meant to keep the backlight from turning off entirely).

I have the Dell U2410 and spent $500 on it - on sale! I haven't regretted a penny of it since. Fantastic IPS monitor.
 
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What evilspoons said. I have the Dell U2711.

TNs are awful though no matter how 'meh' you think better color reproduction is not worth it. I'd think PVAs are better and not as expensive as IPS and offer a good compromise.
 
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