23-inch Apple Cinema HD Display for gaming?
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I don't know about gaming, but it is THE sweetest 23" display out! I figure since people like the Dell 2001FP for gaming (it has a 16ms response time), the 23" Apple should be fine too.
) on the hardforums i just got the 20-inch (wanted the 23, but im starving grad student)...it is great for gaming...16ms response is excellent, ghosting is minimal, if its even there at all. really vibrant display, only downfall is that you can change any setting other than brightness at hardware level. i really recommend it, huge step up from my syncmaster panel...
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Sorta off-topic question, but how do you run a triple-monitor setup? If I just plan to game on my main monitor, can I hook up a PCI card (does Matrox make dual-DIV PCI cards?) and use that to power my other two monitors?
I ask because I am considering one of the 23" HP LCD's for my main monitor but want to keep my 15" Sony LCD and 21" Nokia CRT hooked up.
-spike
I ask because I am considering one of the 23" HP LCD's for my main monitor but want to keep my 15" Sony LCD and 21" Nokia CRT hooked up.
-spike
The biggest issue you're going to have is that the native resolution of a 23" flat panel is enough to choke just about anything short of a 6800GT SLI rig if you're playing HL2 or Doom 3. I hear it scales down to lower resolutions rather nicely, so that is always an option.
Also, if you're playing a game that doesn;t support widescreen aspect ratios, you're going to have vertical black bars on the sides - leaving you with about the same viewable area that the much cheaper 2001FP has. Of course, most of the new games support widescreen aspects so this is becoming less of an issue.
Before I'd get an Apple display, though, I'd hang tight and see if Dell puts out a 23" widescreen display sometime soon (as they are rumored to be planning). Aside from the styling of the monitor, I personally find the 2005FPW to be a superior monitor to the 20" Apple Cinema display as it has a better contrast ratio, has more inputs, has better positioning of the USB ports, and has a stand that supports rotating the screen into portrait mode. Plus it is a heck of a lot cheaper, even after the Cinema Display price cuts. Once the backlight issue is fixed, the physical appearance of the Apple monitor will be the only thing it really has going for it over the 2005FPW. I'm sure it is going to be a similar situation when Dell eventually puts out their 23" widescreen, so I'd be cautious buying an Apple display right now.
Also, if you're playing a game that doesn;t support widescreen aspect ratios, you're going to have vertical black bars on the sides - leaving you with about the same viewable area that the much cheaper 2001FP has. Of course, most of the new games support widescreen aspects so this is becoming less of an issue.
Before I'd get an Apple display, though, I'd hang tight and see if Dell puts out a 23" widescreen display sometime soon (as they are rumored to be planning). Aside from the styling of the monitor, I personally find the 2005FPW to be a superior monitor to the 20" Apple Cinema display as it has a better contrast ratio, has more inputs, has better positioning of the USB ports, and has a stand that supports rotating the screen into portrait mode. Plus it is a heck of a lot cheaper, even after the Cinema Display price cuts. Once the backlight issue is fixed, the physical appearance of the Apple monitor will be the only thing it really has going for it over the 2005FPW. I'm sure it is going to be a similar situation when Dell eventually puts out their 23" widescreen, so I'd be cautious buying an Apple display right now.
Hi:
Have an Apple Cinema 23 worked fine until I got a SLI system
the Nvidia driver works different if you have a "analog connection - with the adapter" vs a DVI connection. Some tabs where turn "OFF" by Nvidia in the Nview DESKTOP MANAGER when you use the DVI connector and are not being supported until the release of the next set of drivers.
I have a Velocity Micro Raptor dual PCI-e with 6800 GT (2) and SLI "ON"
The machine will work fine if the monitor if I use an old dual monitor that has both DVI and "analog" connectors, even when connected to DVI.
If the monitor is pure digital, or one of the lattest model. The card will identify this and will use the Pure DVI driver subrutine. This has advance timming "off". As a result SLI only support high definition monitor at their native resolution (Apple Cine, HDTV -LCD, Plasma and some Viewsonic Monitors). Monitor with 1920x1200 or more. Changing to a lower resolution will turn the creen into garbaje. OUT OF SYNC.
Nvidia knows about this and have erase all connects in their SLI site. If you have a SLI and DVI monitor try turning SLI "OFF" in the driver (NVIDIA TAB) reboot and then try to turn it back "ON" you will not be able to. So be very careful. Then you will get the two monitor like is mentioned here. The only was to go back is using system restore.
Playing games in those pure digital monitors can not be done with actual driver for SLI, changing to a lower resolution (most games are 1024 or less) will result in a garbage screen. The ystem will work fine if SLI is turn "off" but the other card will be there for the ride.
The only solution is to use a LCD monitor with dual connectors (that has both connector "analog and digital" ) or a CRT
The idea of SLI was to run games at higher resolution but Nvidia put the system put before the drivers where ready.
NVIDIA has failed miserably with this release.....
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Have an Apple Cinema 23 worked fine until I got a SLI system
the Nvidia driver works different if you have a "analog connection - with the adapter" vs a DVI connection. Some tabs where turn "OFF" by Nvidia in the Nview DESKTOP MANAGER when you use the DVI connector and are not being supported until the release of the next set of drivers.
I have a Velocity Micro Raptor dual PCI-e with 6800 GT (2) and SLI "ON"
The machine will work fine if the monitor if I use an old dual monitor that has both DVI and "analog" connectors, even when connected to DVI.
If the monitor is pure digital, or one of the lattest model. The card will identify this and will use the Pure DVI driver subrutine. This has advance timming "off". As a result SLI only support high definition monitor at their native resolution (Apple Cine, HDTV -LCD, Plasma and some Viewsonic Monitors). Monitor with 1920x1200 or more. Changing to a lower resolution will turn the creen into garbaje. OUT OF SYNC.
Nvidia knows about this and have erase all connects in their SLI site. If you have a SLI and DVI monitor try turning SLI "OFF" in the driver (NVIDIA TAB) reboot and then try to turn it back "ON" you will not be able to. So be very careful. Then you will get the two monitor like is mentioned here. The only was to go back is using system restore.
Playing games in those pure digital monitors can not be done with actual driver for SLI, changing to a lower resolution (most games are 1024 or less) will result in a garbage screen. The ystem will work fine if SLI is turn "off" but the other card will be there for the ride.
The only solution is to use a LCD monitor with dual connectors (that has both connector "analog and digital" ) or a CRT
The idea of SLI was to run games at higher resolution but Nvidia put the system put before the drivers where ready.
NVIDIA has failed miserably with this release.....
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Well Me again...
After waiting almost 2 months for driver from NVIDIA.
I decied to trade in my 2 6800GT for an ultra and turn SLI OFF permanentlly.
SLI is not good if it can not be use in high resolution monitor, that was the purpose in the first place !!!!
The people from Microvelocity have been very nice and I recommend this company to anyone. They exchange the cards and where very diligent and respoinsible.
I will buy a Microvelocity without any doubht, they are the best built computer around...
But avoid SLI for now....if you have a DVI only monitor or plasma
After waiting almost 2 months for driver from NVIDIA.
I decied to trade in my 2 6800GT for an ultra and turn SLI OFF permanentlly.
SLI is not good if it can not be use in high resolution monitor, that was the purpose in the first place !!!!
The people from Microvelocity have been very nice and I recommend this company to anyone. They exchange the cards and where very diligent and respoinsible.
I will buy a Microvelocity without any doubht, they are the best built computer around...
But avoid SLI for now....if you have a DVI only monitor or plasma
Nvidia has a new driver 71.89
placed in the web 2 -5 days ago
Is the first driver that will allow to turn "off" SLI in a ASUS Deluxe from the driver and back "on" with no difficulty and no lock.
this will allow Apple Cinema used to turn SLI "off" so they can play games in a lower resolution than native.
SLI work fine in native 1900x1200 resolution but most games do not go to this resolution.
Nvidia in the Release Notes for this driver for the first time admits there is an issue with Apple Cinema monitors and SLI and recommends to use NVIDIA 6800 Ultra with 512 MB ( and pass on SLI) for now...
http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/71.89/71.89_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf
RELEASE NOTES FROM NVIDIA FOR DRIVER 71.89
page 12...
placed in the web 2 -5 days ago
Is the first driver that will allow to turn "off" SLI in a ASUS Deluxe from the driver and back "on" with no difficulty and no lock.
this will allow Apple Cinema used to turn SLI "off" so they can play games in a lower resolution than native.
SLI work fine in native 1900x1200 resolution but most games do not go to this resolution.
Nvidia in the Release Notes for this driver for the first time admits there is an issue with Apple Cinema monitors and SLI and recommends to use NVIDIA 6800 Ultra with 512 MB ( and pass on SLI) for now...
http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/71.89/71.89_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf
RELEASE NOTES FROM NVIDIA FOR DRIVER 71.89
page 12...
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