23" 120hz IPS screen being released. Maybe!

[Trajan]

I've seen folks into (or curious about) 3D gaming rave about the need for an IPS display. Doing some searching today, I found some hot news about a new display from LG:

http://www.lgdisplay.com/lgdhp/eng/pr/newsView.dev?seq=3641

Essentially, LG is claiming to have produced a mass market 23" IPS display that outputs 120hz (or "240hz" using backlighting tricks). Who knows when this will actually be on the market, but I'm cautiously willing to believe that the technical challenge has now been overcome, and it should only be a matter of (more) time.

So, for everyone who says they will think about switching to 3D (or 120Hz) when there are IPS displays available.. looks like it's coming.

I still haven't pulled the trigger on 120hz, although the Asus VG236H is tempting me despite being only 1920x1080. From what I figure, higher resolution 3D screens aren't likely until early to mid 2012. There's just no reason for companies to make them until there is widespread adoption of Displayport or some other interface that can support the necessary bandwidth. So likely that means the next generation of graphics cards in 2H 2011, and then displays coming a couple quarters after that.

 

[bryanW1995]

isn't a nice tn better for 3d b/c they don't have as much lag as ips?

 

[Trajan]

isn't a nice tn better for 3d b/c they don't have as much lag as ips?

It's all a matter of preference. I think I'd prefer better response time and TN. But for people who want the best possible image/color quality, comparing a TN to an IPS is like comparing a garbage truck to a BMW.

Do I have that right, IPS guys?

 

[vshin]

There's a lot of hype about IPS panels but the hard truth is that TN panels are better for gaming. The only thing I miss about IPS monitors is that they use a proper 16:10 aspect ratio instead of the 16:9 screens that are flooding the TN market.

 

[Absolution75]

There's a lot of hype about IPS panels but the hard truth is that TN panels are better for gaming. The only thing I miss about IPS monitors is that they use a proper 16:10 aspect ratio instead of the 16:9 screens that are flooding the TN market.

That's a pretty subjective statement. . .



IMO 6ms of lag from 8ms of an IPS panel to 2ms of a TN panel is fairly minuscule compared to other sources of delay (input lag - though rare in TN's/IPS, mouse input lag, usb lag, obviously a frame buffer increases lag, 60hz monitors, low fps).

My old TN monitor had some blurring at a rated 16ms (much worse at certain colors, but in general it wasn't noticeable). On my current panel, there isn't any blurring at all. So really, what's the point. There are other areas to improve response time that will have a greater impact on gaming. IPS has definite advantages in basically everything besides response time, which IMO they are fairly neutral. TN may be faster on paper, but meh, IPS panels aren't marketed towards gamers really.

And 16:10 aspect ratios are kinda going away, there are 16:9 IPS panels now.

Bring on the 120hz monitors!! I want vertical sync & decent fps (aka 120)

 

[Ben90]

That's a pretty subjective statement. . .



IMO 6ms of lag from 8ms of an IPS panel to 2ms of a TN panel is fairly minuscule compared to other sources of delay (input lag - though rare in TN's/IPS, mouse input lag, usb lag, obviously a frame buffer increases lag, 60hz monitors, low fps).

My old TN monitor had some blurring at a rated 16ms (much worse at certain colors, but in general it wasn't noticeable). On my current panel, there isn't any blurring at all. So really, what's the point. There are other areas to improve response time that will have a greater impact on gaming. IPS has definite advantages in basically everything besides response time, which IMO they are fairly neutral. TN may be faster on paper, but meh, IPS panels aren't marketed towards gamers really.

And 16:10 aspect ratios are kinda going away, there are 16:9 IPS panels now.

Bring on the 120hz monitors!! I want vertical sync & decent fps (aka 120)

You would be correct if the advertised response time was the actual response time. A 8ms monitor can take up to 40ms for certain color combination such as brown to brown.

Every 2ms monitor uses some sort of overdrive technology to achieve this number. The overdrive creates a more linear response time as a side effect so even those tough brown/brown transitions take less than 10ms.

 

[Petey!]

Hopefully this is a true IPS 120hz, and not another Mitsubishi let down

 

[Absolution75]

You would be correct if the advertised response time was the actual response time. A 8ms monitor can take up to 40ms for certain color combination such as brown to brown.

That's basically what I said - I mentioned that some colors specifically took longer and I had noticeable blurring on my old 16ms TN (thus, some where probably along the lines of 40-60ms). My 2007WFP doesn't have this issue as the actual response time is on average better than the advertised one - and I'd post the benchmark but the xbitlabs article on it is down. It doesn't use overdrive either.

Here it is for fun though.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/display/20inch-4_17.html