22'' monitor vs 23'' tv

asintu

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22'' has 1680x1050 and the 23'' has 1366x768.

Which one would you choose for a combination of pc/console gaming?

How long would an 8800gt "last" for each of these 2 resolutions, both being set to highest details?
 

BernardP

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You have to choose your compromise. Consoles are made for outputing a 16:9 picture (HD for XB360 and PS3). You will be able to output a 1366x768 picture from your PC to the TV, but no higher.

If you choose a PC monitor, you will have a 16:10 screen ratio. The console output to this monitor will usually be stretched to fill the picture, unless you can find one of the few that can display correctly the 16:9 picture with black bands. The 22-inch monitor will be a better... PC monitor, able to display a higher resolution.

Obviously, the 8800GT will last much longer at the much lower 1366x768 resolution.

Another things to consider is that 23-inch TV sets are being phased out, replaced from above by 26-inch models and from below by cheaper 22-inch TN-panels. If you want a 23-inch TV, better get one before they disappear.
 

asintu

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Originally posted by: BernardP


Obviously, the 8800GT will last much longer at the much lower 1366x768 resolution.

r.

but how much longer will last approximately?
 

taltamir

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It all depends on the SPECIFIC display in question. What exact models are we talking about here?

What you should do is make price breaks... whats the BEST monitor/TV/display I can get for around 150$? 200? 300? 400? 500?

You may deviate a bit ofcourse... such as 375$ display X 440$ display Y...

After you have your list, compare the benefits of going "one step higher" on those things, and select the one that fits you best. Make sure to buy from a company that is good with returns... COSTO.com is a great place to buy displays. Got 1 dead pixel? Unsatisfied? return to any brick and mortal costco store for a FULL refund INCLUDING The price of shipping!
 

Zap

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The TV will not be as good for regular Windows use - I know someone who has a 26" Samsung TV at that resolution and the pixel pitch is horribly huge when your face is 2' from it, and I'm not usually one to be picky about such things. Also, what outputs do your console have and what inputs does the monitor have? If they aren't compatible then your choice is made. If they are, then I'd choose the 22" monitor. Also what is cheaper? I usually find TV LCDs more expensive than monitors for some reason.
 

asintu

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Originally posted by: Zap
The TV will not be as good for regular Windows use - I know someone who has a 26" Samsung TV at that resolution and the pixel pitch is horribly huge when your face is 2' from it, and I'm not usually one to be picky about such things. Also, what outputs do your console have and what inputs does the monitor have? If they aren't compatible then your choice is made. If they are, then I'd choose the 22" monitor. Also what is cheaper? I usually find TV LCDs more expensive than monitors for some reason.

hmm..ok so you're saying monitor ..i guess i might actually go for a 24'' monitor then...which would be the cheapest way to "buy 1080p" ..half the price or more the 32-37'' lcd tvs
 

chinaman1472

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Originally posted by: Zap
The TV will not be as good for regular Windows use - I know someone who has a 26" Samsung TV at that resolution and the pixel pitch is horribly huge when your face is 2' from it, and I'm not usually one to be picky about such things. Also, what outputs do your console have and what inputs does the monitor have? If they aren't compatible then your choice is made. If they are, then I'd choose the 22" monitor. Also what is cheaper? I usually find TV LCDs more expensive than monitors for some reason.

I use a 26" Samsung TV at 1360x768 and the key to not seeing the "horribly huge" pixel pitch is to put it further back ;). I have it set at the back of my desk, a little more than a foot from the front of the desk.

TVs are more expensive than monitors because monitors can't be used to watch live TV out of the box. In fact, a monitor is overall pretty useless out of the box if you don't have a computer.

To the OP:
If you solely use this for gaming, the monitor. Get the TV only if you plan on watching TV with it.
 

asintu

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Originally posted by: chinaman1472
Originally posted by: Zap
The TV will not be as good for regular Windows use - I know someone who has a 26" Samsung TV at that resolution and the pixel pitch is horribly huge when your face is 2' from it, and I'm not usually one to be picky about such things. Also, what outputs do your console have and what inputs does the monitor have? If they aren't compatible then your choice is made. If they are, then I'd choose the 22" monitor. Also what is cheaper? I usually find TV LCDs more expensive than monitors for some reason.

I use a 26" Samsung TV at 1360x768 and the key to not seeing the "horribly huge" pixel pitch is to put it further back ;). I have it set at the back of my desk, a little more than a foot from the front of the desk.

TVs are more expensive than monitors because monitors can't be used to watch live TV out of the box. In fact, a monitor is overall pretty useless out of the box if you don't have a computer.

To the OP:
If you solely use this for gaming, the monitor. Get the TV only if you plan on watching TV with it.

yes, i don't plan on using it as a tv. even so, if i get a 26 let's say it would play games at highest setting for much longer than a 22 or 24'' monitor.

anyways, what distance from your eyes is your 26'' at the point where it's not pixelated anymore?
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: asintu
hmm..ok so you're saying monitor ..i guess i might actually go for a 24'' monitor

I didn't say monitor, nor TV. I said it depends on your connections. If you get a monitor that only accepts VGA or DVI input and your consoles don't have those outputs, then what do you do? Some monitors like the higher end Dells have s-video inputs, but what if your console has only component outputs?

Originally posted by: asintuthen...which would be the cheapest way to "buy 1080p" ..half the price or more the 32-37'' lcd tvs

Well, this would be a way around the issue since you'd be getting a higher resolution, with a medium pixel pitch in the 32" and connections for both your computer and any modern console you happen to own.
 

chinaman1472

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I believe the "standard" for finding how far to place the TV away is 1.5x the size of the TV. For example, if you have a 26" TV, you should sit 39" away. The real problem with TV as monitors, at least for me, isn't the pixelation. I sit about 2.5-3 feet away and there isn't much pixelation at all unless I'm zooming in on something. The real problem is the refresh rate for me. My friend has a 24" monitor and it's crystal clear on some ridiculously high resolution (1920x1080 I think).

My screen is *slightly* fuzzy since it can't break 60hz on the refresh rate. It's a bit annoying at first but I got used to it, and it really isn't a big deal when I'm gaming via the PC. When I watch TV or play consoles, there's nothing wrong with it.

And Zap has a good point. Do your research on monitors and make sure you have the right connections for your PC and your consoles.
 

taltamir

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Oh and PS. I use a dell ultrasharp 24 inch monitor... 1920x1200 resolution (so, larger then 1080p)
And its got all the TV inputs you want.
 

asintu

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Originally posted by: chinaman1472


My screen is *slightly* fuzzy since it can't break 60hz on the refresh rate. It's a bit annoying at first but I got used to it, and it really isn't a big deal when I'm gaming via the PC. When I watch TV or play consoles, there's nothing wrong with it.
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ya i observed that too..tv's usually have lower refresh rates and higher response times (greater than 8ms usually) compared to monitors..so i guess a monitor would be the safer bet when using both pc and console.
 

chinaman1472

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The console won't really matter. Consoles are designed with the use of a TV in mind, not a monitor. I doubt the monitor will upscale the quality significantly. It's the PC that you can see the difference.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: chinaman1472
My screen is *slightly* fuzzy since it can't break 60hz on the refresh rate.

That fuzziness is from the larger pixel pitch, not refresh rate. Plus, AFAIK all LCD TVs and monitors have 60Hz refresh rate.
 

chinaman1472

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^ Are you sure? I can see that same fuzziness on some monitors as well. I assumed it was refresh rate considering it ran on a high resolution as well (bigger than 1360x768), not the pixel pitch since I assumed just about any monitor should have a smaller pixel pitch than my TV. Oh well, it's what I get for assuming.

I believe Samsung has one (or a few) high end LCD TVs that have 120Hz.