MagickMan
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Free from political pressure.
That's the problem, the government can't keep from fucking with the public.
Free from political pressure.
All those knives and cleaning supplies in the home are used every week in most of the hundreds of millions of households in America.
And all those handguns? Oh, that's right, they sit around unused, just waiting to be accidentally discharged.
In other words, I'm questioning the assumption these gun owners are making that these guns will keep them safe. And I'm questioning their assumptions that they're capable of storing their guns securely 100% of the time. Not 9,999 out of 10,000 times. I mean 100%. Not possible.
That's the problem, the government can't keep from fucking with the public.
I'm confused as well, and I don't even own a gun. This is like asking how often I forget to lock the door to my house. The answer is never. I never forget to lock my door.
I guess a more appropriate question is how often I leave a kitchen knife laying around. I mean like how often do I walk into the living room while holding a plate of something, put down the razor sharp knife, and then forget where I put the knife. I don't think I've ever put a knife down then walked away from it. Nobody does that.
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I shouldn't say nobody. I saw an episode of Hoarders where a lady would just throw diabetic needles on the floor. That person should never own a gun. They also should never have kids, but sadly, she had a daughter who had to live in that shit hole
Why has this thread's title still not been fixed? It's been over 12 hours since OP was informed that it's factually incorrect.
OP preaches about the importance of "accurate information," yet refuses to correct his blatantly false thread title and posts. Is "accurate information" a euphemism for "lies and propaganda?"
Every day, about ten people die from unintentional drowning. Of these, two are children aged 14 or younger. Drowning ranks fifth among the leading causes of unintentional injury death in the United States.1
My estimate is fine. Only someone in denial - or attempting to evade dealing with the issue - would argue that 208 isn't the tip of the iceberg.
They're in a gun safe. But that's actually pretty pointless because these are pre-charged pneumatic (PCP) airguns and require a high-pressure tank to pressurize the pressure cylinders (which are unique to the specific gun, rather expensive, and need to be special-ordered). So locking up the pressure cylinders is pretty much all that's needed for the safety of the airguns. The guns are in a safe mostly to prevent them from being stolen (these airguns are not cheap).
The greater danger is from pellets. They're made of lead, which is toxic. Not good for the environment. But they're in the gun safe, too.
The difference, all you morons, is that all of these other things are intrinsically useful/enjoyable/beneficial/even essential to life. So the benefits from these other activities are huge.
How did you get from a link to an FWB field-target air rifle to Airsoft?You're an airsoft gun owner/player... ? It all makes sense now.
They're in a gun safe. But that's actually pretty pointless because these are pre-charged pneumatic (PCP) airguns and require a high-pressure tank to pressurize the pressure cylinders (which are unique to the specific gun, rather expensive, and need to be special-ordered). So locking up the pressure cylinders is pretty much all that's needed for the safety of the airguns. The guns are in a safe mostly to prevent them from being stolen (these airguns are not cheap).
The greater danger is from pellets. They're made of lead, which is toxic. Not good for the environment. But they're in the gun safe, too.
Guns kept solely for self defense have a much greater cost than benefit.Ignoring the obvious fact that guns are beneficial and intrinsically useful what about stairs? I don't know anyone that actually enjoys them and they certainly aren't essential to life. There is a very obvious and much safer opportunity to replace all stairs with elevators.
But instead we keep on installing stairs even though they are especially dangerous to the young, infirm and elderly. While I can't find any data on 2015 every year I can find data for stair deaths are considerably higher as a percent of population than the gun deaths you site
http://danger.mongabay.com/injury_death.htm
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/oct/28/mortality-statistics-causes-death-england-wales-2010
That said, responsible gun owners should certainly take proper care and precaution with their guns
Guns kept solely for self defense have a much greater cost than benefit.
Stairways have a much greater benefit than cost.
Was that so hard?
Cleaning a gun used solely for self-defense doesn't change the fact that the gun is solely for self defense. A gun MUST periodically be cleaned/maintained because not doing so would impair its self-defense purpose. But cleaning and maintenance is not the REASON the person keeps the gun.Nobody keeps a gun solely for self defense. They also target practice with it, break it down and clean it, the gun itself fosters an interest in other guns, which may be eventually used for hunting, or even more target practice.
The crux of your argument is flawed to begin with.
I have to admit, you're great at self-delusion.Everything he has said is flawed. He has lied, stretched the truth, made up numbers, etc. He just looks silly. It's really embarrassing, I almost feel badly for him.
Cleaning a gun used solely for self-defense doesn't change the fact that the gun is solely for self defense. A gun MUST periodically be cleaned/maintained because not doing so would impair its self-defense purpose. But cleaning and maintenance is not the REASON the person keeps the gun.
Similarly, if a person periodically target shoots to retain their shooting skills, but the PURPOSE of those skills is self-defense, then that doesn't change the REASON the persons keeps the gun.
Contrast the above with someone who purchased a gun because they intrinsically enjoy target shooting. THAT is a gun NOT purchased "solely for self defense."
Let me prove to you how stupid your argument is:Sorry, but you can't just try and frame an argument incorrectly in order to win it. That's just building a straw man.
The purpose of a gun is to expend the energy of the bullet. That is really it's sole purpose. And never was a gun purchased for it to be used SOLELY for self defense, you even agreed with that, because they are shot at targets, cleaned, and looked at and admired. And everybody who purchases a gun with the possibility of being prepared to use it for self-defense, also enjoys target shooting. So I don't see what you are trying to say.
I have to admit, you're great at self-delusion.
Guns kept solely for self defense have a much greater cost than benefit.