Discussion 2024 USA Election Thread: Biden and Dems might have problems in 2024 swing states - The Gaza Issue

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eelw

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Lol doh. The AZ case in ‘22 was blocked because of Roe. Since now overturned, they revert back to 1866 law. What an ass backwards state. Gov Hobbs going to push to get something new in place.
 
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uclaLabrat

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The biggest issue with their whole dumbass plan is RFK Jr sounds like what a magat THINKS a Democrat sounds like.

My buddy is pretty conservative and even he was like "this RFK guy is saying some interesting things!" And I was like not a chance bud.

Hes absolutely going to siphon more moderate Rs than dems.
 

K1052

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Lol doh. The AZ case in ‘22 was blocked because of Roe. Since now overturned, they revert back to 1866 law. What an ass backwards state. Gov Hobbs going to push to get something new in place.

Question is likely to be on the ballot and same election could deliver her a trifecta given the overall landscape and total disaster that is now the AZGOP.

Trump doesn't want to talk about reproductive rights because he wants to get elected but state courts keep busting through that wall like the Kool Aid man.
 

MrSquished

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Question is likely to be on the ballot and same election could deliver her a trifecta given the overall landscape and total disaster that is now the AZGOP.

Trump doesn't want to talk about reproductive rights because he wants to get elected but state courts keep busting through that wall like the Kool Aid man.
The fucked up thing is that Trump is basically admitting this is to win The upcoming election and of course he's lying about what will happen when And if he gets power. Yet the mainstream media is covering this like a serious policy change.

I really love to see some of this left-wing mainstream media that everybody's been talking about come out finally.
 

K1052

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The fucked up thing is that Trump is basically admitting this is to win The upcoming election and of course he's lying about what will happen when And if he gets power. Yet the mainstream media is covering this like a serious policy change.

I really love to see some of this left-wing mainstream media that everybody's been talking about come out finally.

Long tradition of Trump saying words and the media constructing a narrative around them that misinforms the public continues unabated.
 

manly

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Donny said in 1999 that he's pro-choice. MAGA has twisted their brains into knots to imagine him as their evangelical champion. I'd bet dollars to donuts that he's personally paid for an abortion after impregnating someone he wasn't married to.
 

nakedfrog

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Donny said in 1999 that he's pro-choice. MAGA has twisted their brains into knots to imagine him as their evangelical champion. I'd bet dollars to donuts that he's personally paid for an abortion after impregnating someone he wasn't married to.
Just one?
 
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gothuevos

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Looks more and more like 2016 with each passing day. Yet people somehow believe Biden's floor (which has steadily been declining) will somehow improve by November? Yeah abortion is still a major issue so maybe Biden holds onto Arizona, but as long as Trump doesn't explicitly endorse a national ban, enough people will still vote for him largely due to immigration and grocery prices. Nevermind that of course he's lying and will do a complete 180 when back in office.

 
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eelw

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Lol chicken little, the orange monkey isn’t gaining supporters. But disinterested voters is the concern.
 

Pens1566

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Looks more and more like 2016 with each passing day. Yet people somehow believe Biden's floor (which has steadily been declining) will somehow improve by November? Yeah abortion is still a major issue so maybe Biden holds onto Arizona, but as long as Trump doesn't explicitly endorse a national ban, enough people will still vote for him largely due to immigration and grocery prices. Nevermind that of course he's lying and will do a complete 180 when back in office.


When was the last time one of your electoral predictions came true?
 

dlerious

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Biden gonna pull a Hilary and not even visit these swing states until like October? Or at all?

Get moving.

Missing from the rally is the GOP candidate running against Bob Casey. Seems Trump hasn't endorsed him. I wonder how many people are going to abandon Trump now that his hush money trial has started. A conviction before November can't be good.
 

gothuevos

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In case you thought I was a doomer that only posted bad news... Biden's approval rating with a 4% uptick

 

fskimospy

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Biden gonna pull a Hilary and not even visit these swing states until like October? Or at all?

Get moving.

As your own article mentioned PA was the first place he visited after the state of the Union and he's visiting three more parts of PA this week.

 
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manly

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In case you thought I was a doomer that only posted bad news... Biden's approval rating with a 4% uptick

The national polls and betting markets are almost exactly 50/50 right now.* However, Biden still trails in battleground states that will decide the contest:


Nobody really cares whether or not you're a doomer; we object because you have a loose relationship with facts. Last week alone you falsely stated twice that Biden's "floor" continues to fall when the opposite has happened. Somehow you patted yourself on the back for being correct. :colbert:

* I would cite 538 but their recent polling results make no sense right now.
 

fskimospy

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The national polls and betting markets are almost exactly 50/50 right now.* However, Biden still trails in battleground states that will decide the contest:


Nobody really cares whether or not you're a doomer; we object because you have a loose relationship with facts. Last week alone you falsely stated twice that Biden's "floor" continues to fall when the opposite has happened. Somehow you patted yourself on the back for being correct. :colbert:

* I would cite 538 but their recent polling results make no sense right now.
I got the sense that ABC has pretty much abandoned it. Not sure if they are very reliable anymore, which is a shame.
 
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MrSquished

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It's amazing to listen to someone like AOC speak. Someone educated and thoughtful and decent. The Trump party (formerly known as the Republican party), has literally nobody on this level. It's unreal how shallow and stupid they are and people love it. But the difference could not be more stark between Dems and the Trump party when either side opens their mouth.

This is a pretty good response by AOC though I think she could have boiled it down to an even more straightfoward answer but this is what the Dems do, they talk a bit too much without providing that short and sweet sound byte. I know issues are complicated and don't always boil down to a sound byte, but, this election can be boiled down to sound bytes. This is Democracy vs Fascism. Good vs Evil.

 
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Papua New Guinea leader defends nation after Biden's 'cannibals' comment


MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — Papua New Guinea’s Prime Minister James Marape accused Joe Biden of disparaging the South Pacific island nation by implying that an uncle of the U.S. president had been eaten by “cannibals” there during World War II.


“President Biden’s remarks may have been a slip of the tongue; however, my country does not deserve to be labeled as such,” Marape said in a statement provided by his office to The Associated Press on Monday.


Biden’s comments offended a key strategic ally as China moves to increase its influence in the region.
 

Indus

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Papua New Guinea leader defends nation after Biden's 'cannibals' comment


MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — Papua New Guinea’s Prime Minister James Marape accused Joe Biden of disparaging the South Pacific island nation by implying that an uncle of the U.S. president had been eaten by “cannibals” there during World War II.


“President Biden’s remarks may have been a slip of the tongue; however, my country does not deserve to be labeled as such,” Marape said in a statement provided by his office to The Associated Press on Monday.


Biden’s comments offended a key strategic ally as China moves to increase its influence in the region.

Biden puts America first.. he's not kissing up other leaders apparently.
 
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fskimospy

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Papua New Guinea leader defends nation after Biden's 'cannibals' comment


MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — Papua New Guinea’s Prime Minister James Marape accused Joe Biden of disparaging the South Pacific island nation by implying that an uncle of the U.S. president had been eaten by “cannibals” there during World War II.


“President Biden’s remarks may have been a slip of the tongue; however, my country does not deserve to be labeled as such,” Marape said in a statement provided by his office to The Associated Press on Monday.


Biden’s comments offended a key strategic ally as China moves to increase its influence in the region.
It probably wasn't a good idea to say from a diplomatic perspective but it is also, well, true that Papua New Guinea had significant numbers of cannibals living there at the time.
 

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Papua New Guinea leader defends nation after Biden's 'cannibals' comment


MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — Papua New Guinea’s Prime Minister James Marape accused Joe Biden of disparaging the South Pacific island nation by implying that an uncle of the U.S. president had been eaten by “cannibals” there during World War II.


“President Biden’s remarks may have been a slip of the tongue; however, my country does not deserve to be labeled as such,” Marape said in a statement provided by his office to The Associated Press on Monday.


Biden’s comments offended a key strategic ally as China moves to increase its influence in the region.
So, was an Uncle eaten by canibals?