2023 midrange > 2019 flagship

Indus

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Just upgraded from an S10+ to an A54 5g and I'm blown away.

Midrange used to be slow and freeze but no longer. It seems that the midrange phones also come with bigger batteries so I am not complaining.

Camera photos and video clips are decent.

Most importantly this made my jaw drop..

The higher score is from the supposedly sucky Exynos 1380 midrange and the lower one is from the top of the line snapdragon 855.

No point to really buy a $1000+ flagship phone anymore.
 

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Just upgraded from an S10+ to an A54 5g and I'm blown away.

Midrange used to be slow and freeze but no longer. It seems that the midrange phones also come with bigger batteries so I am not complaining.

Camera photos and video clips are decent.

Most importantly this made my jaw drop..

The higher score is from the supposedly sucky Exynos 1380 midrange and the lower one is from the top of the line snapdragon 855.

No point to really buy a $1000+ flagship phone anymore.
Definitely. For most people, a mid-range phone would be more than enough. A $599 Pixel 7 would be outstanding. The pricey flagships are mainly meant for people like me, who insist on powerful cameras and all the other perks.
 

Indus

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Definitely. For most people, a mid-range phone would be more than enough. A $599 Pixel 7 would be outstanding. The pricey flagships are mainly meant for people like me, who insist on powerful cameras and all the other perks.

Yeah I bought my S10+ because I wanted comparable pics to my dslr.

Sadly over the next 4 years I think I took my Dslr out 20 times so about 5 times a year. Currently most primary cameras are 50 mp and do as good as a dslr in good light so I might be leaving my D600 & D7200 at home even more.

The old adage is correct.. the best camera in the world is the one with you at the right moment.
 

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Definitely. For most people, a mid-range phone would be more than enough. A $599 Pixel 7 would be outstanding. The pricey flagships are mainly meant for people like me, who insist on powerful cameras and all the other perks.
That's why I stick with OnePlus as they pack a ton of tech without the insane markup of SS / Apple. $700 for 12/256 and the latest snapdragon CPU is a deal. The tensor CPU in pixels leaves some desire on the table when it comes to performance. The sd8g2 even has WiFi 7 baked in already.
 

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That's why I stick with OnePlus as they pack a ton of tech without the insane markup of SS / Apple. $700 for 12/256 and the latest snapdragon CPU is a deal. The tensor CPU in pixels leaves some desire on the table when it comes to performance. The sd8g2 even has WiFi 7 baked in already.

Does OnePlus use lithium ion or lithium polymer in their batteries?

Lithium ion degrades badly over time.. like when you first get it, the charge lasts almost a week.. then after 3 years it was down to 2 days.. and at 4 years now it was down to 1 day with minimal usage except calls and camera.

Lithium polymer seems to endure much better which is why I went with that. Sure its heavier but I like having more of a charge.
 

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Does OnePlus use lithium ion or lithium polymer in their batteries?
I had a 6T and 8 pro that lasted a couple of days easily on a single charge for a couple of years and the 11 has a bigger battery and is doing the same. The 11 though charges more smoothy than the others though. I don't use the high watt charger on them though to make the battery last longer but even so the 11 charges faster. If I needed a quick charge though being able to hook up the 80w charger is a nice option in a pinch. I have a couple of power banks though and a high output car charger as well. USB PD works well though for daily needs.
 
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Definitely. For most people, a mid-range phone would be more than enough. A $599 Pixel 7 would be outstanding. The pricey flagships are mainly meant for people like me, who insist on powerful cameras and all the other perks.
You don't even need to spend that much for a Pixel 7. Got one last month for $450 direct from Google, and then they gave me $150 for my traded in Pixel 3a. So at the end of the day, $300 for a new phone that will easily last me years since my needs are simple (good camera, decent battery life, solid web browsing and basic app use, music, and Android Auto).
 
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Indus

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You don't even need to spend that much for a Pixel 7. Got one last month for $450 direct from Google, and then they gave me $150 for my traded in Pixel 3a. So at the end of the day, $300 for a new phone that will easily last me years since my needs are simple (good camera, decent battery life, solid web browsing and basic app use, music, and Android Auto).

Yeah its finally similar to getting a 13600k midrange vs 13900KS. You don't need to shell out a lot for decent performance.

Mostly the difference is inbetween camera software or eco system that you're familiar with.

I just like the Samsung One UI over a stock android. Wouldn't go anywhere near iOS though!
 

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Definitely. For most people, a mid-range phone would be more than enough. A $599 Pixel 7 would be outstanding. The pricey flagships are mainly meant for people like me, who insist on powerful cameras and all the other perks.

Yup. I would be totally happy with a regular Pixel 7, but it's the telephoto camera and other slight camera upgrades that push me to get the Pro.
 
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I can trade my Galaxy A51 (non-5G) and get $200 credit which means I can get the A54 for $250. I'm trying to decide if it's worth buying. The 4 years of upgrades and 5 years of security updates is a big selling point for me. I also like the Samsung UI and a better camera is always nice to have. I've never paid more than $100 for a phone since I use it with tracfone's service.
 

balloonshark

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Should check out Tello. As for the $100 phone it comes down to preference. They do have some phones for sale as well as cheap plans.
Would love to try tello but I set my neighbor up with them and service was very hit or miss in this building. I live in rural WV and the only reliable service here involves GSM/at&t towers or cellular one.
 

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I'm an Android user and I'm mostly wanting the best camera at the time when I buy a phone. I just got the S23 Ultra, after using a Note 20 Ultra for almost 3 years. It is the first time I can say that staying with the Note was desirable, except the main camera module went out on it. I cannot tell the difference in images taken with that compared to the 23 Ultra, so perhaps it's me that's the limitation now.

Before that I had the LG V40, and the Note camera way way better. We take trips often and my phone is always with me, and I don't even bother lugging around my 4/3's camera any more that I spent too much on with lenses.

YMMV.
 
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