2020 Ford Mustang Shelby on Jay Leno's Garage

[QueBert]

911 GT2:
$300k
700'ish HP
0-60 2.7
211mph top speed

not a super car? JESUS, tough crowd here.

 

[Kaido]

Ford Mustang Jack Roush Edition Has It All: 775 HP and a Manual Transmission:

Ford Mustang Jack Roush Edition Has It All: 775 HP and a Manual Transmission

The acclaimed Ford tuner outdoes even the Shelby GT500 in power, thanks to Roush's in-house-designed supercharger.

www.yahoo.com

"Roush will be making 70 of these special-edition Mustangs, priced at $87,720, which puts it in the same neighborhood as the GT500 with the optional Carbon Fiber Track package."

 

[Kaido]

What distinguishes a supercar from a sports car or other high performance cars though? Is it the exotic look? I would agree there that the 911's don't look as exotic as some other cars in that price range. Performance? Here I think the 911's can hang with some of the best in the world. The 911 Turbo has been known as the "supercar" daily driver for a long time. Sub 3.0s 0-60, over 200mph top speed, handles with the best of them, etc. Up until this year the Lightening Lap record was set by a 911. Seems like a pretty good argument for being a supercar. *shrugs*

The definition is tricky. The Tesla Model 3 performance edition is $57,000 for 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds, no track or special settings required. Likewise, the Tesla Model S Performance Edition with Ludicrous Mode is $100k for 0 to 60 in 2.4 seconds. Granted, it's limited to a top speed of 155 mph, but that 0 to 60 speed is also turn-key performance. The Ferrari CEO claims that the Tesla is not a supercar - he specifically makes a point about handling, but it's obvious he's never driven a Tesla before:

Ferrari's CEO shoots down claims that Tesla's Model S is secretly a supercar

Sergio Marchionne doesn't think Tesla has created a real supercar.

www.businessinsider.com

But with that said, I look at a Tesla performance model & think "ooh, supercar". In my head, the formula for a super car is:

1. Speed (0 to 60, plus top speed, plus I guess I'd throw in handling & overall performance)
2. Gas engine (noise primarily, plus vibrations, but also ridiculously complex mechanics, lol)
3. Extreme styling

Like, I drive an Ecoboost Mustang as my DD. It's ridiculously fun (0 to 60 in 5.3, has a turbo, comes in stick-shift, 310 horsepower, over 150 pounds lighter than the GT), but man, driving the V8 in my test-drive was really fun - it was noisy, it shook the car, it was awesome! So I think force-feedback is a big part of performance cars, which has a lot to do with having a gas engine & also having a lot of mechanical things to experience.

 

[KentState]

It's bad when cars like this come out and I"m no longer excited about them. If the Mustang came when the Hellcat and ZL1 were hot, then it would have made more sense. Now, it's at the end of the era were manufacturers are shifting their focus to newer technologies.

 

[Kaido]

It's bad when cars like this come out and I"m no longer excited about them. If the Mustang came when the Hellcat and ZL1 were hot, then it would have made more sense. Now, it's at the end of the era were manufacturers are shifting their focus to newer technologies.

Yeah, it really is the end of an era. We live in a world where you can buy 3-second cars off the shelf, which is pretty nutty. But I mean, what's next? A 1,000-horsepower Hellcat Fury or something equally ridiculous? I mean, that'd be amazing, but were kind of reaching our limits in the physical world, both for gas-powered engines & for vehicles in general. The Tesla Roadster 2.0 is supposed to go 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds (I wonder what that even feels like...I've driven a performance Tesla at 2-point-whatever seconds & it feels like getting the wind knocked out of you, lol), and possibly even faster with upgrade packages.

I mean, I'm all for performance improvements, but I know what you mean about stuff being kind of so over-the-top that it fails to make you excited anymore, haha. I mean great, the new Mustang is 700+ horsepower, but hey, it only comes with an automatic transmission, and that's mostly because you've got human brain-to-body lag for shifting gears, lol.

 

[Midwayman]

I wish I could justify getting something like this before gas cars die off. OTOH it would be a lot cheaper just to build the factory 5 shelby I've wanted to do for years.