2016 : Votes were altered. Hacked.

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Ken g6

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This article suggests the Russians had the means and opportunity to alter votes in Georgia, but did they have the motive? Or was Trump already coming out on top? Maybe they just peeked at the totals and left them as they were.
 

Jhhnn

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Given the security of the electoral process, and that fact that it is the basis of our stable, functioningdemocracy, it is absolutely insane that there isn't a federal agency tasked with securing the validity of our process. None of the 50 flavors of incompetence should be tolerated.

Centralize the process and the systems, make it auditable.

I think there should be standards, not centralization. Audit-able paper trails should exist in all voting systems. The fact that Georgia doesn't have that makes them a choice target.
 

Jhhnn

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This article suggests the Russians had the means and opportunity to alter votes in Georgia, but did they have the motive? Or was Trump already coming out on top? Maybe they just peeked at the totals and left them as they were.

It's not really about the Russians but about anybody who can gain access to alter the totals. It could be an entirely domestic partisan endeavor.
 
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Amused

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So you're saying they took a cue from the Hillary Rodham team? /chuckle

No, they took a cue from the Richard Milhous Nixon authoritarian "the president is above the law" team and erased the evidence.
 

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For those who have confidence in our election system:
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At the 2017 Def Con computer security conference, perhaps the biggest gathering of hackers in the world, organizers challenged attendees to hack into a variety of 30 different voting machines used by election officials around the country.

Within 24 hours they hacked every one.

A 16-year-old hacker broke into as ExpressPoll voting machine used by Georgia in 45 minutes. Another cyberhacker showed how he could change votes in the WINvote machine used in Virginia, Pennsylvania and Mississippi, with only a computer, a mouse and a Microsoft Word document, as long as he had the password. But the hacker soon discovered that WINvote machines all had the same password.

The password, which could not be changed, was (you might want to take a deep breath) “abcde.”



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The truism often attributed (probably wrongly) to Stalin seems appropriate: “It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.”

Where they hacked remotely, like the DNC was from Russia, or did they require physical access?
 

Ackmed

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Claiming The Root as a reputable source, is laughable. But those with their only intention of trying to make the right look bad, will use anything I suppose. Really just pathetic.


Editor’s Note: This story was an opinion piece asserting there was evidence that hackers changed votes in the 2016 election. However, a number of statements in the piece are disputed by experts. As a result, we have pulled it down for editorial review, and will update it once that review is completed.

So many people acting like sheep, article is bogus as expected with most of theirs. Just embarrassing for the OP and other believers.

We need to have you and your party arrested and arraigned for treason

So now you want every Republican arrested and tried for treason, based on nothing. Normally you are hanging off the cliff of insanity, you have fallen off with that statement.

BUT;

ISRA, also referred to as the Islamic African Relief Agency (IARA), received a $200,000 taxpayer-funded grant from the Obama administration, which released at least $115,000 to the terrorist-financing organization.

Giving money to terrorist is perfectly fine with you I suppose? Nice.
 
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Claiming The Root as a reputable source, is laughable. But those with their only intention of trying to make the right look bad, will use anything I suppose. Really just pathetic.




So many people acting like sheep, article is bogus as expected with most of theirs. Just embarrassing for the OP and other believers.



So now you want every Republican arrested and tried for treason, based on nothing. Normally you are hanging off the cliff of insanity, you have fallen off with that statement.

BUT;



Giving money to terrorist is perfectly fine with you I suppose? Nice.

Feels good huh?
 

Jhhnn

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The simple fact that purely electronic systems can likely be hacked means that they shouldn't be used, both to protect the integrity of the vote and also to protect people's faith in the accuracy of results.

A person doesn't have to be very bright to see that all this voter fraud bullshit is highly corrosive of people's faith in the voting system. Our President promulgating it is beyond shameful, of course, but his adherents love him just the same.
 

soundforbjt

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WH is having a dog and pony show about election security live right now. Shouldn’t they have started this right after the 2016 elections? It’s far too late now.
 

NostaSeronx

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WH is having a dog and pony show about election security live right now. Shouldn’t they have started this right after the 2016 elections? It’s far too late now.
There is a lot of things they don't want to dig up. Not only the electronic ballots are questionable. Even the electoral college and paper ballots might have been social engineered.

Yep, nothing is wrong everything is fine. We are making sure nothing that could happen will happen, etc.
 
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On the reverse side, I had a thought yesterday. Let’s say some Russian hacks one or two voting machines somewhere, anywhere. Casts or changes a handful of votes to D. Then months later the process and files are “leaked”......
Then begin the chants that the Democratic House or Senate or any Democrat for that matter is not a legitimate elected person. We all know Trump would beat that drum 24/7.
 
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