2014 study: 63% of non-citizen households used welfare programs. 50% of those are illegals.

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Well doesn't everyone have African ancestors? After all Humanity begun in Africa. :p
That always got me. How the fuck did Hitler have such support? All you had to do was look and see he did not live up to this alleged perfect Aryan (tall, like platinum blonde hair, chiseled features, not fat but not small in stature). Then you add in his turd sniffer mustache and its just, how did this guy dupe the Germans and not square him up against his claims of pinnacle of human that was almost the total opposite of what he was?
 
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That always got me. How the fuck did Hitler have such support? All you had to do was look and see he did not live up to this alleged perfect Aryan (tall, like platinum blonde hair, chiseled features, not fat but not small in stature). Then you add in his turd sniffer mustache and its just, how did this guy dupe the Germans and not square him up against his claims of pinnacle of human that was almost the total opposite of what he was?
The Rise and Fall of the Turd Reich, but Richard Shirer is probably the best novel on teh subject. But, there are many. Essentially, it was a perfect storm of horribleness.
 

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That always got me. How the fuck did Hitler have such support? All you had to do was look and see he did not live up to this alleged perfect Aryan (tall, like platinum blonde hair, chiseled features, not fat but not small in stature). Then you add in his turd sniffer mustache and its just, how did this guy dupe the Germans and not square him up against his claims of pinnacle of human that was almost the total opposite of what he was?
First, you train the population to feel victimized by their fellow citizens. Backstabbed, if you will. And you demonize minority groups, because they're a minority, and don't have the sheer numbers that the majority does. Then you train them to only believe what you say, because everyone else who says anything critical are biased, and in fact, liars, if not, uh, outright enemies of the...well...people.

Sound familiar?
 
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The Rise and Fall of the Turd Reich, but Richard Shirer is probably the best novel on teh subject. But, there are many. Essentially, it was a perfect storm of horribleness.
Oh I get that, but I still don't, just because of how blatantly obvious what was going on. But I feel that same way about rape culture, racism, and a whole bunch of other shit. Where humanity just has a collective insanity or something. Suppose its easy to be a product of the progress born out of the struggle against that, with the hindsight of the knowledge, to be able to say how obvious it was.

First, you train the population to feel victimized by their fellow citizens. Backstabbed, if you will. And you demonize minority groups, because they're a minority, and don't have the sheer numbers that the majority does. Then you train them to only believe what you say, because everyone else who says anything critical are biased, and in fact, liars, if not, uh, outright enemies of the...well...people.

Sound familiar?
The thing is though, he was describing something almost completely the opposite of what he was. So him having trained them to listen to him should have highlighted how fucking ridiculous the schism between himself and his claimed perfect man as he was telling them while being a fucking joke compared to it. If I'm not mistaken it wasn't even that he was saying that's the perfect man and he's a god, he was basically saying that the perfect Aryans essentially were living gods. Hell he even went out of his way to point exactly to people that actually epitomized his perfect man and so it wasn't like he was describing some mythical being and letting people just imagine what that was.

Say what you want, but Turmp always says fluffs himself and says he's the best. He'll blatantly lie like saying he's in perfect health and other shit, but he's always saying he's great. Hitler went out of his way to describe his perfect man as everything he wasn't and then to parade those people out highlighting how he was not that.
 
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Oh I get that, but I still don't, just because of how blatantly obvious what was going on. But I feel that same way about rape culture, racism, and a whole bunch of other shit. Where humanity just has a collective insanity or something. Suppose its easy to be a product of the progress born out of the struggle against that, with the hindsight of the knowledge, to be able to say how obvious it was.
Think of back when you were an ignorant child, think of all the dumb shit you did back then.
Maybe you called people names because they were different from you. Maybe you did some kinda 'toxic masculinity' type stuff. Maybe you hurt somebody or bullied somebody.


There's lots of people like as adults.
 

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Oh I get that, but I still don't, just because of how blatantly obvious what was going on. But I feel that same way about rape culture, racism, and a whole bunch of other shit. Where humanity just has a collective insanity or something. Suppose its easy to be a product of the progress born out of the struggle against that, with the hindsight of the knowledge, to be able to say how obvious it was.



The thing is though, he was describing something almost completely the opposite of what he was. So him having trained them to listen to him should have highlighted how fucking ridiculous the schism between himself and his claimed perfect man as he was telling them while being a fucking joke compared to it. If I'm not mistaken it wasn't even that he was saying that's the perfect man and he's a god, he was basically saying that the perfect Aryans essentially were living gods. Hell he even went out of his way to point exactly to people that actually epitomized his perfect man and so it wasn't like he was describing some mythical being and letting people just imagine what that was.

Say what you want, but Turmp always says fluffs himself and says he's the best. He'll blatantly lie like saying he's in perfect health and other shit, but he's always saying he's great. Hitler went out of his way to describe his perfect man as everything he wasn't and then to parade those people out highlighting how he was not that.
Well, first thing first, I don't think Hitler ever said if you aren't at least 6'0'' have blue eyes, golden blond hair, etc, you're some mongrel piece of shit. Not to mention, Hitler was probably above average height at the time (1920s), and hid his health issues. And it's not like he was on television every single day throughout the 1920s, with everyone able to see him.

That said, the most important part of authoritarianism is whether the population is ready for it.

About 30-40% of just about any population are authoritarians. Depending on the society they live in, they may be better trained than other authoritarians to immediately buy into whatever the fascist Strongman says.

Germans after WWI had been trained to believe that they had been backstabbed by Jewish Elites before, during, and after the war. Hitler and Friends created their own news sources, i.e. propaganda, and stated repeatedly that what they said was the truth, and everything else, was, uh, lets say, fake news.

For many people, there was very little faith in the Weimar government, with the German populace cheering on a non-aristocratic Hitler, who was going to, uh, shake things up, since he wasn't some elite politician.

And you throw on top of that outright scapegoating of minorities and other groups (Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, Communists, Socialists, Labor Unions), and by declaring that you were going to make Germany Great Again with a German Empire that would provide lebensraum and would last 1000 years...and you have a population willing and able to buy into what the Strongman says.

Because ultimately, authoritarians seek to follow a rightful authority. Strongman Hitler was that rightful authority. So whatever he said, was truth. Everything else was lies and bias. Because Strongman Hitler was the rightful authority.

Hitler won elections, and the aristocratic elite politicians thought they could hold him in check and direct him, so that he'd end up accomplishing their goals, all under the cover of Nazism. While they weren't too happy about the outright anti-semitism, they thought it'd be kept in check, you know, through their sheer aristocratic political elite skills.

Again, sound slightly familiar? History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.

A book that should be required reading by every US student is "The Authoritarians", by Bob Altemeyer.

Here it is, totally free to read online: https://theauthoritarians.org/Downloads/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

And, the author makes the subject matter easy to understand, and extremely entertaining, believe it or not.

You seem interested in how authoritarianism works, and how it enables fascists. You can't find a better read than what I linked to above.
 

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The number jumps UP to 70% if the non-citizen household has been here for 10 years or more. We simply cannot afford to be the world's piggy bank for people that come here not to contribute, but to suck up resources. And 50% of that 63-70% are ILLEGALS that shouldn't be here at all. BUILD THE WALL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzRsU6PBNbE

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

https://www.dailywire.com/news/38996/study-63-non-citizen-households-2014-used-welfare-hank-berrien

http://wbckfm.com/i-thought-non-citizens-can-not-receive-welfare-think-again/

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/63-non-citizen-households-receive-welfare
What will a wall do about your family on welfare?

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Even if the white nationalist "Center for Imigration Studies" was not cherry picking and misrepresenting data... so fucking what?

Let us look at where all our federal dollars go. Shall we?



Wow. So inside those tiny slivers of "Food and Ag", and "Housing" and ""Health" are tiny percentages of those being used for welfare programs.

Those are the "massive amounts of money" you are mad about being "wasted" to help human beings.

To help human beings.

Less than 2% of your federal taxes. And that's what is outraging you. Why? Because it's helping people?

Less than 2%.

To help human beings.

Republican Jesus must be pissed.

Yeah. OK.

Conservatism is the new word for "mentally handicapped asshole"
Oh I'm sorry good sir.... what is that? A left leaning politically bias site Is calling you out on your bullshit chart that you googled?

Oh yes, yes it is. Nice job showing not only YOUR retardation, but also every retard that likes your post.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...art-federal-spending-circulating-internet-mi/

Dont go doing something like researching what you proclaim to be fact... that would just be waaaaay too much work.
 
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Oh I'm sorry good sir.... what is that? A left leaning politically bias site Is calling you out on your bullshit chart that you googled?

Oh yes, yes it is. Nice job showing not only YOUR retardation, but also every retard that likes your post.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...art-federal-spending-circulating-internet-mi/
The people who are retarded are the ones who lump in all mandatory spending as 'entitlements' and compare them to welfare, and I'll explain why.
I have been working more or less continuously since (true story) I got my first paper route when I was 11 years old. Which was 36 years ago. I also got my Social Security number at that same time because they didn't issue them at birth back then. And since that time, I have contributed to Social Security in every single one of those 36 years.
And in fact, I have contributed at the max for most of the last 25 years. Which for 2018, is $7,960.80. Which along my employer match (which they could and probably would pay me if it didn't have to go to Social Security), makes for a total this year of $15,921.60. Or nearly $16,000 this year alone towards something that a fucking retard like you wants to equate to welfare.
But it gets better than that. Using a fairly conservative rounded off figure of $15k/yr for the last 20 years, that means I have paid in $300,000. And as I've got about 20 years to go until retirement, that makes the number $600,000. That I will likely have paid in to Social Security before I retire.
So with all due respect, fuck you if you want to call it welfare. That's my money, thank you, and I want every possible cent of it back that I can get. And if you want to discontinue Social Security benefits, then I will expect my check, please, for every cent back of my money that I have already paid in.
 

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The people who are retarded are the ones who lump in all mandatory spending as 'entitlements' and compare them to welfare, and I'll explain why.
I have been working more or less continuously since (true story) I got my first paper route when I was 11 years old. Which was 36 years ago. I also got my Social Security number at that same time because they didn't issue them at birth back then. And since that time, I have contributed to Social Security in every single one of those 36 years.
And in fact, I have contributed at the max for most of the last 25 years. Which for 2018, is $7,960.80. Which along my employer match (which they could and probably would pay me if it didn't have to go to Social Security), makes for a total this year of $15,921.60. Or nearly $16,000 this year alone towards something that a fucking retard like you wants to equate to welfare.
But it gets better than that. Using a fairly conservative rounded off figure of $15k/yr for the last 20 years, that means I have paid in $300,000. And as I've got about 20 years to go until retirement, that makes the number $600,000. That I will likely have paid in to Social Security before I retire.
So with all due respect, fuck you if you want to call it welfare. That's my money, thank you, and I want every possible cent of it back that I can get. And if you want to discontinue Social Security benefits, then I will expect my check, please, for every cent back of my money that I have already paid in.
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