2014 study: 63% of non-citizen households used welfare programs. 50% of those are illegals.

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Jhhnn

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A "huge drain?" Less than 2% of the federal budget is a "huge drain."

What is sad is that you're just stupid enough that your cult propaganda leaders can sucker you into being outraged at a program that takes up less than 2% while they rape the treasury for trillions.

I mean, fuck the facts when those nasty brown people are trying to get the American dream, right?

Haters gonna hate. They gotta have somebody, and undocumented immigrants are even better than black people when it comes to punching down. They're job stealin' welfare moochin' invaders, after all. And they're not White, of course, keeping things simple.

It's just the latest manifestation of a streak of bigotry that's plagued us from the beginning. Their predecessors wanted to ship black people back to Africa 150 years ago for the same reason. Xenophobes probably even hated the Norwegians at some point in our history.
 

Amused

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LOL at whoever edited my tags as racism!! The go to move of the left today, get caught red handed in a lie and don't like the facts? Cry racism! Fucking cucks.

The projectionism from the new right is hilarious.

The only cucks here are you guys. Convinced to vote against your own self interests by the well paid for propaganda of the top 1%. You're useful little idiots for the super rich. Only, you're not just cucks, you're gang-banged little bitch idiots who are too stupid to realize it's the people you vote for who are fucking you while they point at a minority or some women and get you all pissed off at them.

You guys keep falling for racism disguised with fake news, cherry picked or fake facts and pseudoscience. All to deflect you from who's really robbing the treasury.

Useful idiots indeed. And so pathetically predictable too. Like Pavlovs racists.
 

1sikbITCH

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The number jumps UP to 70% if the non-citizen household has been here for 10 years or more. We simply cannot afford to be the world's piggy bank for people that come here not to contribute, but to suck up resources. And 50% of that 63-70% are ILLEGALS that shouldn't be here at all. BUILD THE WALL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzRsU6PBNbE

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs

https://www.dailywire.com/news/38996/study-63-non-citizen-households-2014-used-welfare-hank-berrien

http://wbckfm.com/i-thought-non-citizens-can-not-receive-welfare-think-again/

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/63-non-citizen-households-receive-welfare


I am happy to contribute my tax dollars for the welfare of illegals. America was born of criminals it's who we are. Preserve the heritage man!
 

blackangst1

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Even if the white nationalist "Center for Imigration Studies" was not cherry picking and misrepresenting data... so fucking what?

Let us look at where all our federal dollars go. Shall we?

Budget_pie_chart_meme.jpg


Wow. So inside those tiny slivers of "Food and Ag", and "Housing" and ""Health" are tiny percentages of those being used for welfare programs.

Those are the "massive amounts of money" you are mad about being "wasted" to help human beings.

To help human beings.

Less than 2% of your federal taxes. And that's what is outraging you. Why? Because it's helping people?

Less than 2%.

To help human beings.

Republican Jesus must be pissed.

Yeah. OK.

Conservatism is the new word for "mentally handicapped asshole"

You get this in a Fwd: email? Its false.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...art-federal-spending-circulating-internet-mi/
 
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ElFenix

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So, those programs are taxes paid only by illegal immigrants and not by US citizens? really?
They ARE federal spending paid for by taxes, period.
marked for next time the "we should only consider income taxes!" trope gets brought out
 

blackangst1

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Again, SS and Medicare are, BY LAW, not part of the federal budget and taxed separately. When asking where our federal income tax dolors go, they do not go to medicare and SS. Those are paid for by FICA taxes.

Sorry, but no matter your explanation, I believe politifact over you. But carry on for sure.
 
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Amused

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Sorry, but no matter your explanation, I believe politifact over you. But carry on for sure.

I'll believe the SS admin:

https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html

Q1. Which political party took Social Security from the independent trust fund and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A1: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Most likely this question comes from a confusion between the financing of the Social Security program and the way the Social Security Trust Fund is treated in federal budget accounting. Starting in 1969 (due to action by the Johnson Administration in 1968) the transactions to the Trust Fund were included in what is known as the "unified budget." This means that every function of the federal government is included in a single budget. This is sometimes described by saying that the Social Security Trust Funds are "on-budget." This budget treatment of the Social Security Trust Fund continued until 1990 when the Trust Funds were again taken "off-budget." This means only that they are shown as a separate account in the federal budget. But whether the Trust Funds are "on-budget" or "off-budget" is primarily a question of accounting practices--it has no effect on the actual operations of the Trust Fund itself.

And there you have it. SS is a separate fund and only combined in a unified budget for simplicity. But if you want to look at where your federal INCOME taxes go (NOT FICA which is an insurance payment) including SS and Medicare is not accurate.
 

sportage

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What BS... and everybody knows it.
That people actually believe illegals are handed taxpayer funded freebies, money, welfare, food, housing, DRIVERS LICENSE, etc etc.
ANyone, any blue blooded American citizen that has ever even tried to qualify for public assistance will tell you how extremely hard it is to apply and actually get approved for such services.
AND.... to continue to qualify.

So.... this bull crappy that so many people foolishly believe that the Rush Limbaugh's and Donald Trump's feed to them time after time is simply not true AND part of the right wing conspiracy of hate to further divide Americans one against another.
And to demonize illegal immigrants.

If ANYONE is giving handouts to those illegals, its the Donald Trump's and the Rush Limbaugh's that hire them as cheap labor to clean their mansions and tend to their lawns.
THEY are the enablers of illegal immigration.
Those very blow-hard conservatives (so called conservatives) that want that cheap labor in their homes and to build their New York hotels.
Then, they dare demonize those illegals as well.
See how they are?
See how they operate?

No one is handing out taxpayer funded freebies to anyone, especially illegals.
And get this....
I had a niece who spent three years in confinement for her boyfriend doing and making meth. Both spent three years locked up.
And after she was released, and started working, the state withheld her tax refunds until her debt to society was paid in full.
She actually paid back the state for her own three years in confinement.
The same cost that politicians claim tax payers pay for, which they obviously are not if the state is collecting from the jail bird once released and back to work.
Yet the state collects as well, twice, from both the tax payers and the jail birds.
Talk about ripping off the tax payer.

No state or federal government likes to hand out money or services, even for those that should legally be allowed to qualify for such.
So this nonsense that illegals get taxpayer funded freebies is just more of the bull people are fed from right wing politicians and right wing blow hard talk radio.
And they eat it up.
 
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Jhhnn

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zinfamous

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2% of a trillion dollars is a lot of money, couch it anyway you like, it's a LOT.
You are also talking about the percentage of discretionary budget expenditures only. Look at the total budget and see how much is health and SS which is used by illegal immigrants illegally. Go to a hospital waiting room in a large city and see for yourself.

total_spending_pie%2C__2015_enacted.png


Here is the chart of mandatory spending the socialists don't want to acknowledge:
mandatory_spending_pie%2C__2015_enacted.png

Think how much the illegals are taking away from the veterans that sacrificed so much in defense of their country.
Yeah, it is sad.

lol at intentionally posting obvious lies and trying to pass it off as truth. fucking useless assholes. No wonder the country hates you immoral leaches in vast droves.
 

Jhhnn

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2% of a trillion dollars is a lot of money, couch it anyway you like, it's a LOT.
You are also talking about the percentage of discretionary budget expenditures only. Look at the total budget and see how much is health and SS which is used by illegal immigrants illegally. Go to a hospital waiting room in a large city and see for yourself.

total_spending_pie%2C__2015_enacted.png


Here is the chart of mandatory spending the socialists don't want to acknowledge:
mandatory_spending_pie%2C__2015_enacted.png

Think how much the illegals are taking away from the veterans that sacrificed so much in defense of their country.
Yeah, it is sad.


Illegals don't collect SS, even though a lot of them pay in. They're not eligible for medicaid, either-

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ing-your-benefits_us_5a144263e4b010527d6780b0
 
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whm1974

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Personally I think that the Feds should be spending more on helping people instead of the huge amount of funding that goes to the Military.
 
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JSt0rm

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Personally I think that the Feds should be spending more on helping people instead of the huge amount of funding that goes to the Military.

too bad. The world was made for destroying. We evolved wrong. Its over, we just dont know it yet.
 

BurnItDwn

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People with less income qualify for more welfare programs.

Wow, look at table 4 and 5!
Looking at those charts, households with children use welfare at a much higher rate than people without children.

58.4% natives, 79.6% Non Citizen households with children use welfare.
24.7% natives, 37.7% Non Citizen households without children use welfare.


So, whatever point you are trying to make about immigrants, it's MUCH MUCH MORE EXTREME for children! Those little parasites!