2013 Athlon X4 640 vs. 2013 FX-4300...

[escrow4]

There s a 3240 in the graphs above, not sure that a 3220 would do better.

i3s should be definitly discarded as well as i5s unless one do one task at the time, or has previously tested the configuration to see if it suit his specific multitasking needs...

Tests done by Computerbase.de show that both i3/i5 (including the 6600k) perfs collapse if you run two tasks at the same time, one FP and the other Integer to make good measure.

This doesnt happen with i7s whatever the generation.

http://www.computerbase.de/2015-08/...gramm-multitasking-test-cinebench-plus-winrar

HAHAHAHHAHHA.

2 benchmarks at the same time. Your point? An i3 has the balls to run a browser and some other office junk in the background which is what its built for. You want video encoding or running 69 benchmarks at once buy a 5820K. What a random point.

 

[Abwx]

HAHAHAHHAHHA.

2 benchmarks at the same time. Your point? An i3 has the balls to run a browser and some other office junk in the background which is what its built for. You want video encoding or running 69 benchmarks at once buy a 5820K. What a random point.

Random point you said...?...lol...

 

[DrMrLordX]

Can we not make this thread about Yorkfield or i3s or i5s or anything like that? The OP didn't ask about those things, and they aren't socket-compatible with the board he has anyway.

 

[waltchan]

Can we not make this thread about Yorkfield or i3s or i5s or anything like that? The OP didn't ask about those things, and they aren't socket-compatible with the board he has anyway.

Good thinking. I have no respect and patience with Intel anyway on their higher processor prices (except Pentium G3258), and I always cringe if someone requests one Intel build, which I do reject their request occasionally.

Here's my story on my feelings with Intel:

When the Celeron G470 2.00GHz discontinued production after only 4 months of release, that's when my anger with Intel starts to increase dramatically. I was unable to prepare and stock-up enough Dell Celeron G470 PCs after they were out of production quick in January 2014. Plus they're difficult to find in stores anyway. Bay Trail Celeron J1800 began to pop up in stores rapidly in February 2014, and that's when the amount of store returns, dissatisfaction, and frustrations begin to increase very sharply. Many of the sub-$200 budget PC buyers I know hated the Celeron J1800 too much compare to previous Celeron G470.

I was forced to retain the older Celeron G465 1.90GHz PCs and keep them in service today (no, I'm NOT happy losing 100 MHz), which were plentiful in-stock and easy to find back in 2013, and only cost less than $199.99 each. The successor Celeron G470 I know was a limited-run CPU model, and sold exclusively for Black Friday 2013 weekend only (Intel even hide all the G470s in warehouse intentionally). At Best Buy where they had one, people camped out for over 1 week for that (and I think it may be worth it for $169.99 price).

Also, beginning in August 2015, Micro Center's famous Intel CPU/board combo now drops down to $20 off discount, a 3 year low. No more $30 off last month, and previously $40 off only 3 months ago. AMD section still continues the $40 off combo. I can't imagine you all still buying Intel combo with only $20 off max, only to find out they hit depreciation hard a few years later.

 

[waltchan]

Nothing to get excited here anymore... Received my Athlon 640 today only to find out all the pins were bent, flatten, and smashed in shipping. The seller didn't put any foam cushion underneath it, but, instead, shoved it inside the bag unprotected. Even worse, he packed it inside a small, flat envelope. Not very smart.

 

[Yuriman]

That's pretty astoundingly dumb. Hope you're getting a refund.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Also, beginning in August 2015, Micro Center's famous Intel CPU/board combo now drops down to $20 off discount, a 3 year low. No more $30 off last month, and previously $40 off only 3 months ago. AMD section still continues the $40 off combo. I can't imagine you all still buying Intel combo with only $20 off max, only to find out they hit depreciation hard a few years later.

I daresay, I don't think too many of us on this forum purchase CPUs as an investment.

 

[NTMBK]

Nothing to get excited here anymore... Received my Athlon 640 today only to find out all the pins were bent, flatten, and smashed in shipping. The seller didn't put any foam cushion underneath it, but, instead, shoved it inside the bag unprotected. Even worse, he packed it inside a small, flat envelope. Not very smart.

Wow, that's even worse than the time a seller didn't bother to clean off the thermal paste before he mailed me a processor wrapped in kitchen roll. That was a nightmare to clean up...

 

[waltchan]

That's pretty astoundingly dumb. Hope you're getting a refund.

Yeah, already got my full refund back. I guess I'm back to the Athlon X2 220 with two additional cores disabled for now (all can be unlocked to quad-core and only cost $9 each). But I own some ECS boards where they don't have core unlocking option.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Glad you got a refund. A pity about such a rube killing a chip like that, though.

 

[escrow4]

Good thinking. I have no respect and patience with Intel anyway on their higher processor prices (except Pentium G3258), and I always cringe if someone requests one Intel build, which I do reject their request occasionally.

Here's my story on my feelings with Intel:

When the Celeron G470 2.00GHz discontinued production after only 4 months of release, that's when my anger with Intel starts to increase dramatically. I was unable to prepare and stock-up enough Dell Celeron G470 PCs after they were out of production quick in January 2014. Plus they're difficult to find in stores anyway. Bay Trail Celeron J1800 began to pop up in stores rapidly in February 2014, and that's when the amount of store returns, dissatisfaction, and frustrations begin to increase very sharply. Many of the sub-$200 budget PC buyers I know hated the Celeron J1800 too much compare to previous Celeron G470.

I was forced to retain the older Celeron G465 1.90GHz PCs and keep them in service today (no, I'm NOT happy losing 100 MHz), which were plentiful in-stock and easy to find back in 2013, and only cost less than $199.99 each. The successor Celeron G470 I know was a limited-run CPU model, and sold exclusively for Black Friday 2013 weekend only (Intel even hide all the G470s in warehouse intentionally). At Best Buy where they had one, people camped out for over 1 week for that (and I think it may be worth it for $169.99 price).

Also, beginning in August 2015, Micro Center's famous Intel CPU/board combo now drops down to $20 off discount, a 3 year low. No more $30 off last month, and previously $40 off only 3 months ago. AMD section still continues the $40 off combo. I can't imagine you all still buying Intel combo with only $20 off max, only to find out they hit depreciation hard a few years later.

People camped out for Celeron rubbish?

Those were discontinued because nobody wants a single core in 2013. Its not 1999. Anything slower than an i3 is just a waste of time anyway. I've used Celerons - plural - and they are just sluggish.

 

[LTC8K6]

People camped out for Celeron rubbish?

Those were discontinued because nobody wants a single core in 2013. Its not 1999. Anything slower than an i3 is just a waste of time anyway. I've used Celerons - plural - and they are just sluggish.

Yeah, that's one of the weirdest anger / grudge reasons I ever heard.

Cringe over intel builds?

Oh brother...

 

[VirtualLarry]

Cringe over intel builds?

Oh brother...

Gotta keep the faith pure, I guess.

Wonder how it will turn out if even current AMD APUs have the APIC/SMM exploit.