2012-2013 Ultrabook calls for beyond Full HD resolutions

Discussion in 'SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones PCs' started by IntelUser2000, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. IntelUser2000

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    (Interesting how they mention tech site comments regarding resolutions)

    Anyway the next generation Zenbooks from Asus and Macbook Air/Pro from Apple uses 1920x1080 and above resolution, a welcome change from 1366x768 so common now. Looks like even 3840x2160 resolutions are on the table for the future.

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  2. vbuggy

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    The big stumbling block is Windows - especially legacy apps, which won't translate well to super-high-res screens. Hopefully Windows 8 will have a '2x' button...
     
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    Linked this to my friend. His response:


    Bring.

    It.

    Want.

    Now.


    That pretty much sums it up for me as well.
     
  4. cbn

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    Are they referring to the resolutions of the current Ultra books or the display quality itself?

    (I am under the impression Tech websites have been mostly disappointed in display quality)
     
  5. IntelUser2000

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    Uhh, I think both, considering they also mention brightness and color reproduction on the first slide.

    I have seen complaints for both. The most common resolution complaints are for 1366x768, and for display quality people usually love IPS.
     
  6. Anubis

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    im not sure they need to shoot that high, 1080p with a good quality panel would be a better place to start
     
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    Finally. 1366x768 needs to rot in hell.
     
  8. magomago

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    thank you apple.
     
  9. StrangerGuy

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    Chances of ultrabook being cheaper than a similarly specced MBA = close to zero. Like it or not Apple are the masters of entering a target market early and then dominate in volume by the time the competition even starts testing the waters.
     
  10. Puddle Jumper

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    Plenty of Ultrabooks undercut the Macbook Air, the Dell XPS 13 is $300 less than a MBA 13.

    The Asus Zenbook refresh looks excelent, a 1080p IPS panel is a massive step up from anything currently offered in an ultra portable.
     
  11. LOL_Wut_Axel

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    Yeah... 1920x1080 is too much for a 11.6"-14" display. How about we cap those from 1366x768 for 11.6", 1440x900 and 1600x900 for 13" and 1600x900 for 14" and reserve 1920x1080 for 15" and 17" with the option for 2560x1440 for 17"? Instead of bumping resolution to stupid numbers, how about we focus on improving panel quality first?

    I don't want to have to squint at the display when I'm reading, and I have 20/20 vision. 150 PPI is about the limit you want for a computer display, especially one that will be displaying Windows.
     
  12. TheStu

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    The XPS 13 is $200 cheaper for the base model, but the Air is a touch faster, and has a higher res display. Oh, and the Air is actually in stock, you don't have to wait a month a half for the item to ship.

    For $200 more than the Air you do get 3 years of NBD onsite support from Dell, which is worth it. That CPU is still 1.6 v 1.7, and the display is 1366*768 v 1440*900.

    There is the Envy Spectre, which is $100 more than the Air, but has a 1600*900 display. Though the Spectre takes the glossy laptop trend and cranks it to 11 by coating basically the whole thing in gorilla glass. They are all more or less around the same price, and they all have their shortcomings.
     
  13. IntelUser2000

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    They need an option for displaying the icons and letters at the same size but with higher resolutions, so it would look crystal clear. Windows just makes everything smaller and smaller. Hopefully Windows 8 have ways to work like that.
     
  14. LOL_Wut_Axel

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    Yeah, but Windows 8 sucks horribly for laptops and desktops.

    There's no way I'm installing that crap permanently on any of my machines after giving it a try for three days. Many people here feel the same way.
     
  15. IntelUser2000

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    Doesn't Windows 8 have a regular desktop mode? Various demos have shown the ability to switch between Metro and classic.

    I'd think Metro would be useful on convertible Ultrabooks, which should start to appear as Ivy Bridge arrives.
     
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    Unfortunately, no. Microsoft already said Metro is what they'll push down our throats in Windows 8, and they removed the option to switch to Classic altogether. Now you need to do some rather elaborate "hacks" to the OS in order to run Classic.

    I've never seen much point in convertible laptops, but I guess they're useful for some amateur and professional artists.
     
  17. IntelUser2000

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    That's not what it says here: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/...9/introducing-windows-8-consumer-preview.aspx

    Edit: Hmm, maybe not. It says clicking on the start button still gets you to the Metro interface. Seems like they should still give us the option of a classic interface. They might be forced to do it later if sales are lower than they expect.
     
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    I said it was cheaper not better. I had no idea the XPS is that back ordered, it only took us ~1 week to get the one I was testing.

    The Spectre does have an IPS panel which is worth keeping in mind.

    Control Panel-> Display, then pick 125% or 150% for the DPI or set your own. it may not be 100% perfect but I have set up a couple of laptops with high resolution panels that way and have never had a problem.
     
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    If they're going to start shipping screens with 3840x2160 resolutions, then the IGPs used in ultrabooks are going to need at least a 5x increase in performance to actually do anything at that resolution. The HD3000 that drives the 720p displays now is barely adequate.
     
  20. Puddle Jumper

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    I've found the HD 3000 to be more than fast enough for 1366x768. These laptops would have the new Ivy bridge IGP which should be a decent improvement though.
     
  21. cbn

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    The impression I have been getting is that display quality is the main problem.

    Dell XPS 13: A different kind of ultrabook

    Ultrabook head to head: Acer Aspire S3 vs. ASUS UX31e

    Toshiba Portege R835: Less ultra, more notebook

     
  22. T_Yamamoto

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    first thing first,

    make all laptops have 1080p screens
     
  23. ViviTheMage

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    give laptops IPS/retina display first @ 1920x1200 :)
     
  24. ElFenix

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    >FHD/WUXGA 24" monitor, please
     
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    Vaio Z :D
     
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