2011 Ford Explorer = 2011 Ford Edge???

superccs

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Ok how is the new 2011 Explorer not the same as a Edge?

http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2010/07/2011-ford-explorer-xl.jpg
http://www.fastrunningcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2011-Ford-Edge-3.jpg

I think they are both very decent rides, just how can Ford support so many of the same thing... Explorer, Edge, Flex, Expedition, Exhibition, Exorbitant, Excuse, Expendable..? You know they will have Mercury and Lincoln variants of each, are they tarded? GM has just tried this for the last 40 years.
 

destrekor

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They are different vehicles.
The Edge is a Crossover, the Explorer a mid-size SUV. The Explorer is a little bulkier, and a different platform than the Edge, though that platform will now be a somewhat similar to the smaller platform.
 

Sluggo

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When Ford called asking for your opinion, you probably just let it go to voicemail, so they just had to go with their gut.
 

LTC8K6

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Ok how is the new 2011 Explorer not the same as a Edge?

http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2010/07/2011-ford-explorer-xl.jpg
http://www.fastrunningcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2011-Ford-Edge-3.jpg

I think they are both very decent rides, just how can Ford support so many of the same thing... Explorer, Edge, Flex, Expedition, Exhibition, Exorbitant, Excuse, Expendable..? You know they will have Mercury and Lincoln variants of each, are they tarded? GM has just tried this for the last 40 years.

Mercury is dead.
 

mcmilljb

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I think the real question is why is the Focus and Fiesta so ugly? I can see why the Fiesta is ugly (it's not too ugly). But it is supposed to be cheap. But they keep making an ugly Focus. Though I guess I am glad they got away from the turtle shell version.
 

Capt Caveman

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It doesn't even share an underpinning with the Flex... this dude is so stupid, he didnt realize that the Explorer has 3 rows...

You're right. The Explorer shares the same platform as the Flex, Taurus and Lincoln MKT.

The Edge and Explorer appeal to two different markets. Edge to those interested in a cross-over and Explorer to SUV folks.
 

rcpratt

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Mercury is dead. The Ford Board of Directors voted last week to further diversify Lincoln cars from the Ford cars that they are related to. They'll still be based on the same platform, but for example the MKT is no longer going to be an Explorer with some chrome on the taillights. You're going to see different things from Lincoln going forward.
 

ElFenix

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You're right. The Explorer shares the same platform as the Flex, Taurus and Lincoln MKT.

The Edge and Explorer appeal to two different markets. Edge to those interested in a cross-over and Explorer to SUV folks.

they're both crossovers anyway
:colbert:
 

Throckmorton

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They are different vehicles.
The Edge is a Crossover, the Explorer a mid-size SUV. The Explorer is a little bulkier, and a different platform than the Edge, though that platform will now be a somewhat similar to the smaller platform.

The new Explorer IS a crossover
 

Throckmorton

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BTW, what's up with the Explorer, even the old SUV version, having full independent suspension.... but the Mustang having a solid rear axle?
 

PricklyPete

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1) Edge = 2 rows, Explorer = 3 rows
2) Two different platforms
3) One is marketed as a CUV (Edge), the other as a SUV (Explorer). The definition of these two terms is vague though
4) 3500lbs of towing for the Edge, 5000lbs of towing for the Explorer
5) One looks like crap and the other doesn't...oh wait...never mind, they both look like crap.
 

ElFenix

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BTW, what's up with the Explorer, even the old SUV version, having full independent suspension.... but the Mustang having a solid rear axle?

independent suspension was done for packaging reasons. apparently it's easier to design a seat that folds into the floor with the independent suspension than with the old axle. same with the expedition.


mustang has a solid axle because that's how god intended it (and apparently the handling, if worse off, is still better than its direct competitors so only old 240sx drivers ever bring it up, jello)
 

PricklyPete

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mustang has a solid axle because that's how god intended it (and apparently the handling, if worse off, is still better than its direct competitors so only old 240sx drivers ever bring it up, jello)

The only people I ever hear complaining about the solid rear axle in the Mustang are paper racers. They sum cars up by the "features" the car has rather than the experience the car provides.

Lets face it, engineering is all about compromise. Both Solid and IRS have their pluses and minuses for various applications. Ford went with a solid rear axle and you never hear complaints from people who own the current generation Mustangs.