2009 Mercedes-Benz SL63 and SL65 AMG

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AMG V8 Engine Paired with Innovative MCT Transmission

MONTVALE, NJ ? Mercedes-Benz is unveiling a fourth member of its iconic SL sports car family ? the SL63 AMG. Perhaps the sportiest SL roadster ever, the new SL63 AMG is powered by a 6.3-liter, all-AMG V8 engine that?s coupled to a newly developed MCT transmission.

Featuring an innovative start-up clutch that replaces a conventional torque converter, the seven-speed MCT (for multi-clutch technology) transmission combines the direct connection of a manual gearbox with the lightning-quick automatic gear shifts of a Formula 1 race car. Topping off the SL chassis is an even more agile AMG sports suspension based on the Mercedes-Benz ABC active suspension.

MCT Transmission ? The Best of Both Worlds

Providing the direct feedback of a manual transmission with the total convenience of an automatic, the new seven-speed MCT with AMG Speedshift is an all-new design available only in the new SL63 AMG. Featuring seven speeds, four shift modes and a double-clutching function, the MCT transmission offers impressive versatility and even faster shift times.

At the heart of the new AMG Speedshift MCT seven-speed sports transmission is a new start-up clutch, which runs in an oil bath and replaces a conventional torque converter. Thanks to its low rotational mass, the start-up clutch helps the transmission respond instantaneously and dynamically with no slip.

Fitted with four drive modes: ?C? (Comfort), ?S? (Sport), ?S+? (Sport plus) and ?M? (Manual), the transmission provides customized shift control for maximum driving pleasure, and does so with no interruption of power. In Comfort mode, smooth shifts coupled with a ?soft? accelerator response are set up for silky smooth power transfer. In Sport mode, the engine and transmission interact quicker ? upshifts and downshifts take place at higher engine speed. Gearshifts are around 20 percent faster than in Comfort mode. Switching to the Sport Plus mode cuts another 20 percent off shift times, while the sportiest mode, Manual, reduces shifting times by another 10 percent ? a total reduction of 50 percent compared with Comfort mode. In Manual mode, the gearshifts take just 100 milliseconds.

Ultra-fast, spontaneous multiple downshifts are another forte of the new MCT sports transmission. For instance, kickdown will shift directly from seventh down to fourth gear or from fifth to second. In the ?S? (Sport), ?S+? (Sport plus) and ?M? (Manual) modes, an automatic double-clutching function is active. Every manual or automatic downshift is accompanied by precisely metered double-clutching ? from ?S? through ?S+? to ?M? incrementally. Not only does double-clutching make driving more fun, but virtually load-free downshifting minimizes any jerking, a special benefit when braking into a curve.

The First Engine Developed From the Ground Up by AMG

The SL63 AMG is powered by an AMG 6.3-liter V8 engine that features four valves per cylinder, variable valve timing, bucket tappets (rather than rocker arms) and a variable intake manifold. Sharing no parts with Mercedes-Benz V8 engines, the 6.3-liter engine was a completely autonomous development at AMG.

Built almost completely from a high-strength silicon-aluminum alloy, the cylinder bores make use of a twin-wire-arc-sprayed (TWAS) coating, a process that results in impressively low friction and running surfaces that are twice as hard as conventional cast-iron cylinders.

The 6.3-liter engine block boasts an especially rigid bedplate acting as the overall support of the main bearings (similar to a one-piece set of main bearing caps), cast-in steel reinforcements and a sturdy closed-deck layout in the cylinder head area. The high-flow intake and exhaust ports form a vertical straight line, helping the 6.3 AMG engine rev freely to more than 7,000 rpm, yet the highly flexible AMG engine still produces nearly 90 percent of its peak torque at only 2,000 rpm.

A finely balanced crankshaft with six counterweights spins in five main crankshaft bearings. The crankshaft counterweights feature heavy metal plugs ? a detail usually found only in racing engines ? which means they can be significantly smaller, increasing power by reducing rotational inertia and oil drag.

Each forged connecting rod is precisely ?cracked? with the help of a laser beam, so the irregular fracture contributes to its strength when the two halves are clamped around the crankshaft. The connecting rods and lightweight pistons are matched for extremely close weight tolerances that contribute to smooth running at high speeds. Small nozzles in the engine block spray cooling oil onto the underside of each piston crown.

?Bucket? Followers Instead of Rocker Arms

Twin overhead camshafts in each cylinder bank open the 32 valves via bucket-type followers. In other words, instead of rocker arms, the cam lobes sweep across the flat top of the followers, which sit directly on top of the valve stems. This space-saving design provides a very stiff valve train that allows for large valve openings and dependable high-speed operation for maximum horsepower and torque. However, in contrast to racing engines, each bucket incorporates a hydraulic lifter that automatically maintains valve clearance, which allows for long service intervals and low costs.

The AMG V8 makes use of variable intake and exhaust valve timing to maximize efficiency and torque over a wide RPM range. Valve timing can be automatically adjusted within a range of 40 degrees using electro-hydraulic vane-type adjusters on each camshaft. At part throttle, the valve timing adjuster keeps the exhaust valves open as the intake valves are opening, using this valve overlap for internal exhaust gas recirculation, reducing exhaust emissions and improving fuel economy. However, approaching full throttle, the camshaft adjustment optimizes valve timing for maximum power. The intake cams are driven by a double chain from the crankshaft, and small gears on the intake cams in turn drive the exhaust cams.

The SL63 Gets Unique Styling Touches

The SL63 comes with a distinctive AMG front hood that?s noticeably different from other SL models, as well as a new front apron with a more pronounced wedge shape, larger cooling air intakes, and a black grille. Bi-xenon headlights with black surrounds and large round fog lights ringed in chrome and set well to the side emphasize the vehicle?s width.

Hot air from the engine exits through side air outlets in the front fenders and from the ?gills? behind the front wheels. Trim panels finished in matte silver with ?6.3 AMG? lettering catch the eye, as do new outside mirrors with arrow-shaped LED turn indicators.

SL63 AMG body styling also includes deeper AMG side sill panels and a beefy-looking rear apron that incorporates a large black air diffuser and two pairs of chrome tailpipes. An AMG rear lip spoiler on the trunk lid reduces lift, especially at high speeds.

Finished in nappa leather and genuine carbon fiber, the interior features standard AMG sport seats, an AMG three-spoke steering wheel and a sport instrument cluster with red tach and speedometer needles that swing to the max position and back whenever the ignition is turned on.

Optional Performance Package for the SL63 AMG

An optional Performance Package is also available for the SL63 AMG, which includes even higher-performance components that are well suited for sporty-minded drivers:

* Vented ceramic front brake discs that are 15.3 inches in diameter
* Multi-disc limited-slip rear differential with a 40 percent locking factor of for enhanced traction
* 19-inch AMG twin-spoke forged light-alloy wheels
* Staggered-width tires: 255 / 35 R 19 in front and 285 / 30 R 19 at the rear
* AMG high-performance suspension based on ABC active suspension
* Smaller AMG sport steering wheel with a flattened underside and silver-aluminum shift paddles
* AIRSCARF Around the Head and Neck

All 2009 Mercedes-Benz SL roadsters are now available with AIRSCARF, an innovative feature that can extend the open-air driving season into the cooler months. Another technological first from Mercedes, AIRSCARF is an extra heating system built into the driver and passenger seats. At the touch of a button, warm air flows from vents in the head restraints, acting as an invisible scarf around the head and neck.

Testing revealed that warming just a relatively small area around the neck dramatically improves comfort in cooler weather. The AIRSCARF neck-level heating system blows warm air from the head restraints of the driver and passenger seats, allowing occupants to cruise comfortably with the retractable hardtop open in colder weather. AIRSCARF uses a heating element made primarily of barium titanate, which heats up in a matter of seconds when electrical current is applied.

Optional on the V8-powered SL AMG model and standard on the SL65 AMG, the AIRSCARF neck-level heating system even compensates automatically for changes in air temperature and vehicle speed. AIRSCARF comes with a three-speed switch and an electronic control module that monitors data from the speedometer as well as from inside and outside temperature sensors. AIRSCARF automatically adjusts the fan speed based on this information, and at the same time, the switch can override the automatic settings.

New Audio Technology

With its 6.5-inch color display screen, the standard COMAND system with GPS navigation has been refined with a new MMI interface and a four gigabyte hard drive as well as an integrated six-disc CD-DVD player and a Music Register for around 1,000 MP3 tracks. The interface makes it easy to connect an iPod, USB stick, memory card and other devices. Music tracks can be indicated on the COMAND display located on the center console as well as a smaller display in the center of the instrument cluster, and they can be selected easily using the buttons on the multi-function steering wheel.

Any Bluetooth-enabled cell phone will work hands-free ? even with the phone in a pocket or purse, the audio is automatically muted when a call is made or received, and callers are heard over the audio system speakers. In addition, phone address book info can be displayed by the COMAND system

From Coupe to Roadster in 16 Seconds

At the push of a button, the SL?s retractable hardtop can be fully opened or closed in just 16 seconds, transforming the car from a quiet, weather-tight coupe to a top-down open-air convertible. A hydraulic pump and 11 computer-controlled hydraulic cylinders power the system, and roof operation is controlled by a switch on the center console. A clever folding design allows for a surprisingly large cargo area of 7.2 cubic feet when the top is down. With the top up, the trunk holds 10.2 cubic feet.

The World?s Safest Convertible

Widely acclaimed as one of the world?s safest convertibles, the SL provides sports car performance with all the built-in safety that?s expected from Mercedes-Benz. Since an open car can leave its occupants vulnerable in a rollover, Mercedes engineers met the challenge in the SL with the world?s first automatic roll bar.

Normally part of the interior?s rear-compartment surround structure, the padded, leather-covered bar pops up, locking in place in a third of a second if sensors detect an impending rollover. The driver can also raise and lower the bar by a switch on the console.

Shoulder belts are integrated directly into the seats for greater occupant protection, especially in roll­overs. The Mercedes SL was also the first car with side airbags, which are part of a safety system that includes dual front airbags and emergency tensioning retractors that tighten the seat belts in a collision.

V8 and V12 Power

The two AMG SL roadster models for 2009 feature a choice of V8 and V12 power. The SL63 AMG is powered by a 6.3-liter four-valve-per-cylinder V8 with 518 horsepower and 465 pound-feet of torque, while V12-powered SL65 AMG, makes 604 hp and a monstrous 738 lb.-ft. of torque.

AMG High-Performance Braking

Excellent stopping power for the SL is provided by large, four-wheel disc brakes enhanced with four-channel ABS anti-lock control. Matched to its power and speed capability, the SL63 AMG comes with large 14.2-inch vented rotors up front and 13.0-inch vented rotors at the rear, while the SL65 AMG boasts vented discs that are another 1.2 inches in diameter.

Also new are 19-inch AMG staggered-width alloy wheels ? 8.5 and 9.5 inches wide ? fitted with 255 / 35 R 19 (front) and 285 / 30 R 19 (rear) tires. With triple-spoke styling and a titanium grey finish, the AMG alloy wheels complement the new AMG body styling.

ABC Active Suspension Gives Cat-Like Agility

The SL chassis uses a fully independent, double-control-arm front suspension and the patented Mercedes-Benz five-link rear suspension. All SL models come with second-generation Active Body Control (ABC), the Mercedes-Benz active-suspension technology that virtually eliminates body roll in cornering, squat under acceleration and dive during braking.

Each SL uses software programming specific to the model, akin to tuning the spring rates, shock damping and roll stiffness of a conventional suspension. Special AMG struts with firmer damping and fully reworked systems such as ABS anti-lock brakes, Brake Assist, ASR traction control and ESP stability control complement the enhanced AMG chassis.

Mercedes-Benz engineers use ABC?s interplay of hydraulic, electronic and mechanical parts to reduce body roll by 68 percent (compared to the same vehicle with a conventional suspension), providing the driver with needed feedback through the vehicle chassis. A ?Sport? switch on the center console can make it 95 percent reduced roll, along with tighter shock damping. Active suspension solves the usual tradeoff between ride comfort and handling precision, so SL roadsters offer excellent comfort and league-leading handling.

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I'm normally not a big fan of Mercedes, but if I were to get one, this would be it. That new nose is really nice and that interior, holy schmoly, :Q
 

Arkaign

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Looks like they're tired of getting their arses handed to them by the //M team. AMG's have always had the power, it has been their weight, their old-tech transmissions, their unhinged handling characteristics that always have them handily losing any competition with at least one curve in it. The recent episode of 5th gear showcasing the M3 vs. CL63 showed that in shocking clarity.

Don't get me wrong, the AMG Mercs have always been impressive, but somewhat unrefined and untrackworthy. Not to mention even a base Vette will chew up and spit out any AMG you could throw at it up to this point, track-wise.
 

overst33r

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Looks like they're tired of getting their arses handed to them by the //M team. AMG's have always had the power, it has been their weight, their old-tech transmissions, their unhinged handling characteristics that always have them handily losing any competition with at least one curve in it. The recent episode of 5th gear showcasing the M3 vs. CL63 showed that in shocking clarity.

Don't get me wrong, the AMG Mercs have always been impressive, but somewhat unrefined and untrackworthy. Not to mention even a base Vette will chew up and spit out any AMG you could throw at it up to this point, track-wise.

A base vette will chew up near anything track wise. I'd still rather have a road missile than a grand tourer that is able to take corners fairly well.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Looks like they're tired of getting their arses handed to them by the //M team. AMG's have always had the power, it has been their weight, their old-tech transmissions, their unhinged handling characteristics that always have them handily losing any competition with at least one curve in it. The recent episode of 5th gear showcasing the M3 vs. CL63 showed that in shocking clarity.

Don't get me wrong, the AMG Mercs have always been impressive, but somewhat unrefined and untrackworthy. Not to mention even a base Vette will chew up and spit out any AMG you could throw at it up to this point, track-wise.

A base vette will chew up near anything track wise. I'd still rather have a road missile than a grand tourer that is able to take corners fairly well.

Well, let me ask you this, if you had to choose between the M3 or CL63, what would your choice be? Knowing full well that the M3 has a slightly slower 0-60/Quarter time, but notably superior circuit times/braking/handling?
 

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Looks like they're tired of getting their arses handed to them by the //M team. AMG's have always had the power, it has been their weight, their old-tech transmissions, their unhinged handling characteristics that always have them handily losing any competition with at least one curve in it. The recent episode of 5th gear showcasing the M3 vs. CL63 showed that in shocking clarity.

Don't get me wrong, the AMG Mercs have always been impressive, but somewhat unrefined and untrackworthy. Not to mention even a base Vette will chew up and spit out any AMG you could throw at it up to this point, track-wise.

A base vette will chew up near anything track wise. I'd still rather have a road missile than a grand tourer that is able to take corners fairly well.

Well, let me ask you this, if you had to choose between the M3 or CL63, what would your choice be? Knowing full well that the M3 has a slightly slower 0-60/Quarter time, but notably superior circuit times/braking/handling?

Well a lot of people magazine race and will choose the M3 because "top gear or Road & Track said so". That and the M badge is more prestigious.

When it comes down to it as a daily driver though, I'd go CL65 AMG. You'll never have the ability to test out those 71mph slaloms(unless you enjoy reckless driving tickets and being a danger.menace/stereotypical 3 Series a-hole to the public), but that extra acceleration can be used more safely in say freeway overtaking maneuvers.

<- type of guy that laughs at people putting slotted/drilled rotors on their daily driver, reducing total braking force with no benefit unless your commute home somehow includes a few hot laps through Laguna Seca.
 

Arkaign

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Hmm I think that a car that handles better is just more satisfying on the road. It's why a Lotus Elise/Exige or a Noble (I've only driven an Elise out of these three to be honest) has that magic that isn't there in cars that are far less tactile/responsive. Granted, I had an E39 M5, and while it handled very well for it's size, it was no M3. I guess everyone has a different level of compromise that they have to shoot for. There's no right or wrong, as these are all very exceptional vehicles in one way or another.
 

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ok, i think we all know the drill; Mercs, as mentioned above, for the road and vette for the track.

/quit
 

ponyo

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Simply beautiful. I would love to have one but it's way out of my price range.
 

Blackjack200

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Well a lot of people magazine race and will choose the M3 because "top gear or Road & Track said so". That and the M badge is more prestigious.

When it comes down to it as a daily driver though, I'd go CL65 AMG. You'll never have the ability to test out those 71mph slaloms(unless you enjoy reckless driving tickets and being a danger.menace/stereotypical 3 Series a-hole to the public), but that extra acceleration can be used more safely in say freeway overtaking maneuvers.

<- type of guy that laughs at people putting slotted/drilled rotors on their daily driver, reducing total braking force with no benefit unless your commute home somehow includes a few hot laps through Laguna Seca.

Eh, that's kind of a convenient characterization. I could just as easily say that the M3 is safer for emergency maneuvers because of its more predictable handling, and that if 400 hp is not enough for your freeway overtaking, you're probably almost as dangerous as our 71 mph slaloming friend.

The truth is that both cars offer far more than could ever be needed for safe and enjoyable daily driving. I personally prefer the M3, but I agree with Arkaign, the CL63 is exceptional in its own right and you can't go wrong either way.
 

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M3 and the CL63 are no where near the same class.

M3 is a souped up 3 series and the CL is a 2 door S-class, your 2 car classes away.

That being said, the CL is a superior daily driver, have fun bring your m3 to the track to take advantage of that excellent handling once a year while the guy in the benz enjoys one of the most luxiourious vehicles on the road with a beast under the hood. That all being expected and all for a $100K+ car, but like I said, the M3 and CL are no were near in the same class.
 

overst33r

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Looks like they're tired of getting their arses handed to them by the //M team. AMG's have always had the power, it has been their weight, their old-tech transmissions, their unhinged handling characteristics that always have them handily losing any competition with at least one curve in it. The recent episode of 5th gear showcasing the M3 vs. CL63 showed that in shocking clarity.

Don't get me wrong, the AMG Mercs have always been impressive, but somewhat unrefined and untrackworthy. Not to mention even a base Vette will chew up and spit out any AMG you could throw at it up to this point, track-wise.

A base vette will chew up near anything track wise. I'd still rather have a road missile than a grand tourer that is able to take corners fairly well.

Well, let me ask you this, if you had to choose between the M3 or CL63, what would your choice be? Knowing full well that the M3 has a slightly slower 0-60/Quarter time, but notably superior circuit times/braking/handling?

Considering it would be a daily driver I would pick the MB hands down. It has the better engine and is just more useful for daily driving. If I were to take both to the track though, I'm sure the M3 would provide the more satisfying experience, but since that is not the case 99% of the time, the MB wins. Also don't confuse the CL63 AMG with the C63 AMG. Big difference.
 

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I don't get the point why all these baby bimmer think they are in the same level as S-class big boys?

It is like tell people there are more rooms and bigger swimming pool in Holiday Inn, then Four Season Hotel. :roll:

 

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
M3 and the CL63 are no where near the same class.

M3 is a souped up 3 series and the CL is a 2 door S-class, your 2 car classes away.

That being said, the CL is a superior daily driver, have fun bring your m3 to the track to take advantage of that excellent handling once a year while the guy in the benz enjoys one of the most luxiourious vehicles on the road with a beast under the hood. That all being expected and all for a $100K+ car, but like I said, the M3 and CL are no were near in the same class.

As a selfproclaimed BMW fanboy I absof*ckinloutely agree. I think it's time for BMW to re-unleash it's 8 series coupe again and launch it's first true M8, fight V-12's with V-12's I say!
However I have doubts over how well V-12 cars would be in demand at his day and time...

However, on a side note, that interior is truly hot!
 

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Originally posted by: DarkThinker
Originally posted by: BouZouki
M3 and the CL63 are no where near the same class.

M3 is a souped up 3 series and the CL is a 2 door S-class, your 2 car classes away.

That being said, the CL is a superior daily driver, have fun bring your m3 to the track to take advantage of that excellent handling once a year while the guy in the benz enjoys one of the most luxiourious vehicles on the road with a beast under the hood. That all being expected and all for a $100K+ car, but like I said, the M3 and CL are no were near in the same class.

As a selfproclaimed BMW fanboy I absof*ckinloutely agree. I think it's time for BMW to re-unleash it's 8 series coupe again and launch it's first true M8, fight V-12's with V-12's I say!
However I have doubts over how well V-12 cars would be in demand at his day and time...

However, on a side note, that interior is truly hot!

i absolutely 100% agree with you.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
M3 and the CL63 are no where near the same class.

M3 is a souped up 3 series and the CL is a 2 door S-class, your 2 car classes away.

That being said, the CL is a superior daily driver, have fun bring your m3 to the track to take advantage of that excellent handling once a year while the guy in the benz enjoys one of the most luxiourious vehicles on the road with a beast under the hood. That all being expected and all for a $100K+ car, but like I said, the M3 and CL are no were near in the same class.

Performance wise they are, and unless you have driven both you're just speculating about "superior daily driver" (whatever that is supposed to mean). And when was an M3 not luxurious?
 

SearchMaster

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Simply beautiful. I would love to have one but it's way out of my price range.

Didn't you just pay your house off?

House payment, car payment, what's the difference? Now that I've convinced you to buy one, can I borrow it? ;)
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: SearchMaster
Originally posted by: Naustica
Simply beautiful. I would love to have one but it's way out of my price range.

Didn't you just pay your house off?

House payment, car payment, what's the difference? Now that I've convinced you to buy one, can I borrow it? ;)

Yes, but being able to buy one and afford one are two different things. I could buy one for cash if I really wanted to but that doesn't mean I can afford it. I don't believe in financing for toys and cars in general unless I'm paid to do so. I've better plans for my cash and money like buying a vacation beach condo on the Florida Gulf Coast hopefully next year.
 

fstime

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: BouZouki
M3 and the CL63 are no where near the same class.

M3 is a souped up 3 series and the CL is a 2 door S-class, your 2 car classes away.

That being said, the CL is a superior daily driver, have fun bring your m3 to the track to take advantage of that excellent handling once a year while the guy in the benz enjoys one of the most luxiourious vehicles on the road with a beast under the hood. That all being expected and all for a $100K+ car, but like I said, the M3 and CL are no were near in the same class.

Performance wise they are, and unless you have driven both you're just speculating about "superior daily driver" (whatever that is supposed to mean). And when was an M3 not luxurious?

I've driven an SL55 and been in the new S-Class.

If your driving to compare a 3 series to a S class platform as far as luxury goes, your kidding your self.

Plain and simple, Mercedes is always the car you want on a long road trip, the BMW is what you want to take a g-force turn.

Everything i've read has said BMW has gone down hill big time with their interior on the M3 and looking for pics I am really not impressed. A lot of things are not standard. One thing that sticks out is a 10 inch diameter steering wheel lol....
 

DarkThinker

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Even the BMW 7-series ? I am sure there are lots of executives that would rather be in a 7 series rather than an S-class.
 

DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: BouZouki
M3 and the CL63 are no where near the same class.

M3 is a souped up 3 series and the CL is a 2 door S-class, your 2 car classes away.

That being said, the CL is a superior daily driver, have fun bring your m3 to the track to take advantage of that excellent handling once a year while the guy in the benz enjoys one of the most luxiourious vehicles on the road with a beast under the hood. That all being expected and all for a $100K+ car, but like I said, the M3 and CL are no were near in the same class.

Performance wise they are, and unless you have driven both you're just speculating about "superior daily driver" (whatever that is supposed to mean). And when was an M3 not luxurious?

I've driven an SL55 and been in the new S-Class.

If your driving to compare a 3 series to a S class platform as far as luxury goes, your kidding your self.

Plain and simple, Mercedes is always the car you want on a long road trip, the BMW is what you want to take a g-force turn.

Everything i've read has said BMW has gone down hill big time with their interior on the M3 and looking for pics I am really not impressed. A lot of things are not standard. One thing that sticks out is a 10 inch diameter steering wheel lol....

WTF are you on about?

As for Mercedes I've owned and driven many of them. They are no more luxurious than a high line BMW. In some aspects they are downright cheap and nasty.

You appear to be confusing a sloppy ride with Luxury.