2008 FG Ford Falcon

[dug777]

http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/2894102.aspx

Links to engines, galleries etc on there.

Not sure if it'll be another VE Commodore, but it looks ok

 

[GoatMonkey]

That turbo I-6 puts out 270kW, which is 362hp according to the google conversion. Ford needs to either bring that car or that engine over.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Hell of a lot better looking than the crappy Ford sedans we have here.

 

[Skunkwourk]

Its been discussed many times before, but again, why do they not bring these cars out to the States? Stick in a different engine if its about emission, just keep the styling jesus, how hard is it to understand that attractive looking cars will attract more buyers. Look at the late 90s Mitsubishi Eclipse. I think that car was garbage, but it sold well cause everyone liked how it looked.

 

[MiataNC]

Originally posted by: m0mentary
Its been discussed many times before, but again, why do they not bring these cars out to the States? Stick in a different engine if its about emission, just keep the styling jesus, how hard is it to understand that attractive looking cars will attract more buyers. Look at the late 90s Mitsubishi Eclipse. I think that car was garbage, but it sold well cause everyone liked how it looked.

A lot of it has to do with the tooling in the US factories. US auto makers can't upgrade/change many of the production lines due to union obligations to their own workers and their suppliers.

When you are obligated to build x-number of engines, or contracted to purchase x-number of suspension components for x-number of years, it is very hard to redesign /retool completely from the ground up.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: m0mentary
Its been discussed many times before, but again, why do they not bring these cars out to the States? Stick in a different engine if its about emission, just keep the styling jesus, how hard is it to understand that attractive looking cars will attract more buyers. Look at the late 90s Mitsubishi Eclipse. I think that car was garbage, but it sold well cause everyone liked how it looked.

They don't bring them stateside because the styling won't sell in the U.S. - example, this Corolla-looking piece. Bring over the engine and platform. Leave the body.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: m0mentary
Its been discussed many times before, but again, why do they not bring these cars out to the States? Stick in a different engine if its about emission, just keep the styling jesus, how hard is it to understand that attractive looking cars will attract more buyers. Look at the late 90s Mitsubishi Eclipse. I think that car was garbage, but it sold well cause everyone liked how it looked.

They don't bring them stateside because the styling won't sell in the U.S. - example, this Corolla-looking piece. Bring over the engine and platform. Leave the body.

It's a clear evolution of the BA Falcon, and you need your eyes checked if you think it looks like a Corolla

Your claim that it wouldn't sell is an interesting one, and seems to be based on nothing more than a) your personal and regularly expressed love of boxy angles and bling on good old detroit metal, and b) that US automakers keep shoving boxy chrome laden things with fugly noses onto the US market and telling you that you like it. Who is actually leading who there?

It would be interesting to see how something like this or the VE really sold in the US left unmolested by the boxy angles, chrome and fugly nose school of design

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: m0mentary
Its been discussed many times before, but again, why do they not bring these cars out to the States? Stick in a different engine if its about emission, just keep the styling jesus, how hard is it to understand that attractive looking cars will attract more buyers. Look at the late 90s Mitsubishi Eclipse. I think that car was garbage, but it sold well cause everyone liked how it looked.

They don't bring them stateside because the styling won't sell in the U.S. - example, this Corolla-looking piece. Bring over the engine and platform. Leave the body.

It's a clear evolution of the BA Falcon, and you need your eyes checked if you think it looks like a Corolla

Your claim that it wouldn't sell is an interesting one, and seems to be based on nothing more than a) your personal and regularly expressed love of boxy angles and bling on good old detroit metal, and b) that US automakers keep shoving boxy chrome laden things with fugly noses onto the US market and telling you that you like it. Who is actually leading who there?

It would be interesting to see how something like this or the VE really sold in the US left unmolested by the boxy angles, chrome and fugly nose school of design

I actually like boxy, but agree that Falcon looks better than US Ford cars, but I hate US Ford cars. One of my favorite car designs right now from the Big Three is the Dodge Challenger, as well as the Viper and Corvette Z06. A lot of things from Dodge I tend to like, and Jeep makes a lot of things I like the look of. I also really like the HUMMER/H1. Want one of those so bad, even though it borders GPM fuel economy.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: m0mentary
Its been discussed many times before, but again, why do they not bring these cars out to the States? Stick in a different engine if its about emission, just keep the styling jesus, how hard is it to understand that attractive looking cars will attract more buyers. Look at the late 90s Mitsubishi Eclipse. I think that car was garbage, but it sold well cause everyone liked how it looked.

They don't bring them stateside because the styling won't sell in the U.S. - example, this Corolla-looking piece. Bring over the engine and platform. Leave the body.

It's a clear evolution of the BA Falcon, and you need your eyes checked if you think it looks like a Corolla

Your claim that it wouldn't sell is an interesting one, and seems to be based on nothing more than a) your personal and regularly expressed love of boxy angles and bling on good old detroit metal, and b) that US automakers keep shoving boxy chrome laden things with fugly noses onto the US market and telling you that you like it. Who is actually leading who there?

It would be interesting to see how something like this or the VE really sold in the US left unmolested by the boxy angles, chrome and fugly nose school of design

I actually like boxy, but agree that Falcon looks better than US Ford cars, but I hate US Ford cars. One of my favorite car designs right now from the Big Three is the Dodge Challenger, as well as the Viper and Corvette Z06. A lot of things from Dodge I tend to like, and Jeep makes a lot of things I like the look of. I also really like the HUMMER/H1. Want one of those so bad, even though it borders GPM fuel economy.

There's some boxy stuff I do like, and some I can't stand

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: dug777
It's a clear evolution of the BA Falcon, and you need your eyes checked if you think it looks like a Corolla

Your claim that it wouldn't sell is an interesting one, and seems to be based on nothing more than a) your personal and regularly expressed love of boxy angles and bling on good old detroit metal, and b) that US automakers keep shoving boxy chrome laden things with fugly noses onto the US market and telling you that you like it. Who is actually leading who there?

It would be interesting to see how something like this or the VE really sold in the US left unmolested by the boxy angles, chrome and fugly nose school of design

I'm not going to apologize for my personal taste in car design. And I certainly don't think American cars are the pinnacle of automative design. Ford already has plenty of average-to-mediocre designs on the U.S. market that, unsurprisingly, have average-to-mediocre sales numbers. Ford knows how to design an interesting car - they have several in Europe (S-max, Mondeo, Verve/Fiesta) and some in the States (Mustang and Edge). I wouldn't put the Falcon in the same league style wise.

The Corolla comment was a low-blow, but the headlights and indent above the side sills remind me of a Corolla. It's by no means an ugly car - just bland and inoffensive. At least the Comodore has a sporty profile.

I think you're dillusional if you think the Pontiac G8 (Commodore) sans the kidney grill would sell any better than our "Americanized" version. Most people can't tell the difference.

I admit I love a loud, detailed face. The new CTS is beautiful and the chrome grill and brightwork on the Lincoln MKS (and soon the MKT) rubs me just right.