2007 Toyota Camry spied finally...**Updated** More pics posted

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
I guess Toyota cares more about gaining the young crowd than it does the top sales leader crown, because they just turned off half of the old people who normally buy Camry's from buying one.

Old people will buy 'em b/c it's a Camry...PERIOD. They'll still sell 400,000+ of 'em a year. If old folks want boring, they can get an Avalon.

Besides, if Toyota keeps "dumbing" down for old folks, their average buyer age will continue to rise until all of their customers end up dying.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
I guess Toyota cares more about gaining the young crowd than it does the top sales leader crown, because they just turned off half of the old people who normally buy Camry's from buying one.

Old people will buy 'em b/c it's a Camry...PERIOD. They'll still sell 400,000+ of 'em a year. If old folks want boring, they can get an Avalon.

Besides, if Toyota keeps "dumbing" down for old folks, their average buyer age will continue to rise until all of their customers end up dying.

No, they will not buy it because it's a Camry, period. Aggressive/edgy styling tends is going to turn off a certain percentage of their user base. I see them expanding their younger driver base but I don't see those numbers overtaking/subsidizing the lost sales from the older base.

Oh yea - there's no confirmation whatsoever that those are the restyled 06 Accord pics.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
I guess Toyota cares more about gaining the young crowd than it does the top sales leader crown, because they just turned off half of the old people who normally buy Camry's from buying one.

Old people will buy 'em b/c it's a Camry...PERIOD. They'll still sell 400,000+ of 'em a year. If old folks want boring, they can get an Avalon.

Besides, if Toyota keeps "dumbing" down for old folks, their average buyer age will continue to rise until all of their customers end up dying.

No, they will not buy it because it's a Camry, period. Aggressive/edgy styling tends is going to turn off a certain percentage of their user base. I see them expanding their younger driver base but I don't see those numbers overtaking/subsidizing the lost sales from the older base.

Oh yea - there's no confirmation whatsoever that those are the restyled 06 Accord pics.

But it's not overly agressive or edgy. It's "mainstream" nowadays. It's nothing overtly tacky like a Mitsubishi Galant, and it's nothing excessively boring, like a Camry LE of today. It's a middle of the road design. If this '07 design had come out in '99 or '00 for a family sedan, then I could agree with you that it was an aggressive design. Hell, if you showed people the '02 Camry back in '96, they'd probably say that it was too far forward stylistically. But it will be '06 when these cars will hit showroom floors and by then it will simply blend in with the Altimas, Accords and Mazda 6's on the road. And I'm sure that the majority of them will be base model LE's with 15" plastic wheel covers and blanks for the foglights. It's look as plain as vanilla ice cream I'm sure

Toyota just can't keep building cookie cutter bland designs and expect for their average buying age to stay the same or drop. They have to do something or they are gonna find themselves in serious trouble. Why do you think Toyota created Scion? To get some young blood into the corporate stranglehold b/c the Toyota name doesn't impart "youth." The progression is to get 'em young with Scion, get them to upgrade to Toyotas then onto Lexus' later.

That being said, the sales that the Camry could "potentially" lose to older people due to its styling, would be picked up by younger buyers and the Avalon.

But in the end, the sales numbers will speak for themselves. Besides, do you think that Toyota just designed the new Camry with out researching it and doing customer clinics on it anyway? The Camry is big $$$ for them and I seriously doubt that they would fvck around with the formula if they didn't know what their buyers wanted and what the market was like nowadays. The sedan market is heating up Hyundai is charging forward with its new Sonata. Toyota may have a grasp on its current buyer base who would buy nothing but a Toyota anyway, but they also need to do something to grab those outside of the Toyota strangehold.

 

[NFS4]

More pics:

http://www.toyotanation.com/photos/showgallery.php/cat/771

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: NFS4

But it's not overly agressive or edgy. It's "mainstream" nowadays. It's nothing overtly tacky like a Mitsubishi Galant, and it's nothing excessively boring, like a Camry LE of today. It's a middle of the road design. If this '07 design had come out in '99 or '00 for a family sedan, then I could agree with you that it was an aggressive design. Hell, if you showed people the '02 Camry back in '96, they'd probably say that it was too far forward stylistically. But it will be '06 when these cars will hit showroom floors and by then it will simply blend in with the Altimas, Accords and Mazda 6's on the road. And I'm sure that the majority of them will be base model LE's with 15" plastic wheel covers and blanks for the foglights. It's look as plain as vanilla ice cream I'm sure

Toyota just can't keep building cookie cutter bland designs and expect for their average buying age to stay the same or drop. They have to do something or they are gonna find themselves in serious trouble. Why do you think Toyota created Scion? To get some young blood into the corporate stranglehold b/c the Toyota name doesn't impart "youth." The progression is to get 'em young with Scion, get them to upgrade to Toyotas then onto Lexus' later.

That being said, the sales that the Camry could "potentially" lose to older people due to its styling, would be picked up by younger buyers and the Avalon.

But in the end, the sales numbers will speak for themselves. Besides, do you think that Toyota just designed the new Camry with out researching it and doing customer clinics on it anyway? The Camry is big $$$ for them and I seriously doubt that they would fvck around with the formula if they didn't know what their buyers wanted and what the market was like nowadays. The sedan market is heating up Hyundai is charging forward with its new Sonata. Toyota may have a grasp on its current buyer base who would buy nothing but a Toyota anyway, but they also need to do something to grab those outside of the Toyota strangehold.

I think this is a case of agree to disagree.

That being said - I would *instantly* trade in my 04 Accord if the 07 Camry looked like that, and it drove how it looked. (Instead of the gutless boat-like feel the current Camry's have) I still don't believe the younger market/buyers they'd attract like myself would make up for the lost sales b/c they pissed off the conservative market, but I'm not going to convince you, and vice versa.

 

[tennisflip]

Originally posted by: cjgallen
:Q that looks nice!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

That being said - I would *instantly* trade in my 04 Accord if the 07 Camry looked like that, and it drove how it looked. (Instead of the gutless boat-like feel the current Camry's have) I still don't believe the younger market/buyers they'd attract like myself would make up for the lost sales b/c they pissed off the conservative market, but I'm not going to convince you, and vice versa.

This isn't really all that "aggressive." Maybe for a Camry, but in todays mid-sized sedan market, it's pretty par for the course.

'07 Camry Profile shot

 

[SWScorch]

Amazing, a Japanese car that doesn't look like ass!

 

[iversonyin]

Mazda 6's front? Altima's back?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: iversonyin
Mazda 6's front? Altima's back?

The rear end looks nothing like an Altima

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: SWScorch
Amazing, a Japanese car that doesn't look like ass!

There's been plenty of cars that fit that description, this being one of them

 

[imthebadguy]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: SWScorch
Amazing, a Japanese car that doesn't look like ass!

There's been plenty of cars that fit that description, this being one of them

I prefer to think of that as a Ford, so SWScorch's original statement still holds true

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: imthebadguy

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: SWScorch
Amazing, a Japanese car that doesn't look like ass!

There's been plenty of cars that fit that description, this being one of them

I prefer to think of that as a Ford, so SWScorch's original statement still holds true

Ford controlled an even smaller portion than it does today of Mazda when that car was made...

 

[Cattlegod]

Mazda called, they want their 6 back.