Comparing this car to the S2000 is not very fair. Same size engine but turbo vs. non turbo......
Put the same amount of boost to the s2000 engine and it will be fair.
In racing I believe a turbo kicks your engine up 1 liter in class. So it's more like a 2.0 s2000 vs. a 3.0 Sky.
How about the Porsche 935/77 engine? 1.4L at 370HP or the Porsche 937/78 engine 3.2L at 750HP.
That being said the Sky is nice. But I still like the S2000 more, it looks better to me and I love the older 9000 redline engine/exhaust note. J
Put the same amount of boost to the s2000 engine and it will be fair.
In racing I believe a turbo kicks your engine up 1 liter in class. So it's more like a 2.0 s2000 vs. a 3.0 Sky.
How about the Porsche 935/77 engine? 1.4L at 370HP or the Porsche 937/78 engine 3.2L at 750HP.
That being said the Sky is nice. But I still like the S2000 more, it looks better to me and I love the older 9000 redline engine/exhaust note. J
^^^ Ricer argument alert!! Please don't do that...Next thing you know we'll have Honda fanboys in here talking about HP per liter and other non-sense. It's a warrantied turbo 2.0 that is directly in the same class at similar (though not exact) pricepoints. Slap a turbo on the S2000 and it has no warranty, and it is then a $40K car.
Are you joking? how is that any different from you making a HP per dollar comparison? Mrwizzard is right, you cannot really compare an NA engine to a FI engine. The sky gets a monster torque curve because of its turbo, and the s2000 has a weak(er) torque curve because its NA, plain and simple.
I also like the guy asking for 5-60 times on the s2000, ROFL.
here ya go if the 2.0 isnt enough for you =)
Mallett to Build 400hp V8 Saturn SKY
March 30, 2006
Mallett Cars plans to build a high-performance version of the Saturn SKY, powered by a 400 horsepower GM LS2 V8 engine. Inside Line reports that the SKY conversion will be identical to the Mallett Solstice. The publication says the modified SKY, which will have a base price of $21,995 over and above the price of the factory-built car, will be offered in very limited quantities.
According to Mallett, "the 400hp GM LS2 engine is an awesome addition to this super slick roadster. Mallett Cars has engineered it as a complete package. Extensive track and street testing has been done to assure that this car handles better than stock on either a Sunday drive or on a road course. The cars are complete from front to back using Genuine & Official Licensed Products of GM with the stock OEM catalytic converters in place to assure state emission compliances. Our package retains stock features such as cruise control, ABS brakes and all OBD-II diagnostics
Mallett to Build 400hp V8 Saturn SKY
March 30, 2006
Mallett Cars plans to build a high-performance version of the Saturn SKY, powered by a 400 horsepower GM LS2 V8 engine. Inside Line reports that the SKY conversion will be identical to the Mallett Solstice. The publication says the modified SKY, which will have a base price of $21,995 over and above the price of the factory-built car, will be offered in very limited quantities.
According to Mallett, "the 400hp GM LS2 engine is an awesome addition to this super slick roadster. Mallett Cars has engineered it as a complete package. Extensive track and street testing has been done to assure that this car handles better than stock on either a Sunday drive or on a road course. The cars are complete from front to back using Genuine & Official Licensed Products of GM with the stock OEM catalytic converters in place to assure state emission compliances. Our package retains stock features such as cruise control, ABS brakes and all OBD-II diagnostics
""Mallett Cars has engineered it as a complete package. Extensive track and street testing has been done to assure that this car handles better than stock on either a Sunday drive or on a road course""
It's different because we are talking about stock cars which have a warranty and are aimed directly at the exact same market segment. He would have a legitimate point if we were talking about the motors and only the motors but we are talking about the cars as a total package. In which case GM was able to use a turbo'ed 2.0 for the same/less money as Honda's NA 2.0/2.2. It's a perfectly fair comparison, if you don't think so then maybe Honda should offer us a FI 2.0 for the same price...
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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The S2000 doesn the 1/4 in 14.1 (about the same time) and costs $8000 more.
Congratulations! Your $34k S2000 keeps up with a $26k car!
I'd still rather have the S2000.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The S2000 doesn the 1/4 in 14.1 (about the same time) and costs $8000 more.
Congratulations! Your $34k S2000 keeps up with a $26k car!
I'd still rather have the S2000.
Me too.
Roadsters are not about 1/4 mile time. Or rather, if you buy a roadster for its 1/4 mile time, you're wasting your money.
Yeah, I hate supply and demand
Can't they just give me the car I want at the price I want, exactly when I want it?
The OP states horsepower and torque figures. This thread is about the Sky's engine. I have no idea what you are talking about.
It's because everyone knows that the Prius gets blistering fast 0-5 times, which really skews the numbers for all the other cars
Yeah, but the thread evolved into a car comparison, and let's be honest, the engines aren't much good without a car attached to them.
JoLLyRoGer
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GM has been making some good moves lately. The quality on their vehicles has gone way up in recent years. That coupled with the new 100,000 mile warranty GM is now offering should shut the import fanbois up for a while.
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The S2000 doesn the 1/4 in 14.1 (about the same time) and costs $8000 more.
Congratulations! Your $34k S2000 keeps up with a $26k car!
I'd still rather have the S2000.
Me too.
Roadsters are not about 1/4 mile time. Or rather, if you buy a roadster for its 1/4 mile time, you're wasting your money.
pretty much. it's all about feel. like someone else mentioned, if all you care is speed, then go for the mustang GT/350Z convertible by all means. the S2000 is proven to be one of the best handling roadsters.
Beating the SLK320, boxter, audi TT and BMW M roadster
Coming in 2nd behind the lotus elise in a hardcore sportscar comparo... surprise
Beating the new Z4, 350Z, and yet again the boxter and audi TT
and that's only a couple of comparos. if an S2000 beats any BMW Z, MB SLK and TT's... i'm pretty sure any of those cars are better than the sky.
Nice, but what does that have to do with this thread?
Its actually a k04, c&d listed it in their review.
DivideBYZero
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Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The S2000 doesn the 1/4 in 14.1 (about the same time) and costs $8000 more.
Congratulations! Your $34k S2000 keeps up with a $26k car!
Luckily, most of us don't live a qtr mile at a time...
You just invalidated your post with a Fast and Furious reference.
And by identifying it as such you have invalidated your own existance(and avoided the obvious tongue in my cheek). GG!
That's decent, though not overly impressive at this point. A victory of sorts for GM, but with the available choices in todays market this isn't anything groundbreaking.
Unfortunately GM had the habit of being a good 5 years behind the curve for this segments demand.
Domestic automakers seem to be making some better decisions and rebounding from 20 years of mediocre (at best) product. Only time will tell if they continue with good decisions and if their product will stand the test of time.
The sky seems to be a good car so far, though is still a few years away from proving anything besides numbers. As many sources cite the sky is powerful but is not nearly as refined as it's competitors. The interior is the most prolific under-achievement of all GM automobiles, it is simply unimpressive, lower quality and overpriced. This has been a constant with GM vehicles and seems to be one of the last things they want to address. They arn't going to steal an incredible amount of customers away from their competitors with this approach. The GM fit and finish is simply not as good as it's competitors. What's even worse is that the price point, which was a HUGE selling point for the sky and solstice, went from a super deal to a mediocre deal by the time they were released.
I'm still a good 5-10 years away from considering purchasing a domestic auto. Warranty is really a non-point when it comes to purchasing a car, it's not even on my list at all. I'd like to see GM get their act together in the next 5 years or so, then I can consider purchasing a car from them expecting a truely quality product.
Unfortunately GM had the habit of being a good 5 years behind the curve for this segments demand.
Domestic automakers seem to be making some better decisions and rebounding from 20 years of mediocre (at best) product. Only time will tell if they continue with good decisions and if their product will stand the test of time.
The sky seems to be a good car so far, though is still a few years away from proving anything besides numbers. As many sources cite the sky is powerful but is not nearly as refined as it's competitors. The interior is the most prolific under-achievement of all GM automobiles, it is simply unimpressive, lower quality and overpriced. This has been a constant with GM vehicles and seems to be one of the last things they want to address. They arn't going to steal an incredible amount of customers away from their competitors with this approach. The GM fit and finish is simply not as good as it's competitors. What's even worse is that the price point, which was a HUGE selling point for the sky and solstice, went from a super deal to a mediocre deal by the time they were released.
I'm still a good 5-10 years away from considering purchasing a domestic auto. Warranty is really a non-point when it comes to purchasing a car, it's not even on my list at all. I'd like to see GM get their act together in the next 5 years or so, then I can consider purchasing a car from them expecting a truely quality product.
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