Tbates im not a complete moron, i know very well that every chip is different and every combo is different. I dont exspect to get an exact reading from anyone i posted in hopes of learning what people have gotten from these chips on multiple platforms, i just wanted a general idea of what people are getting out of them. I never thought someone would be like oh well you should be able to get it XXXX speed, And i didnt want a massive overclock im happy with just playing with it im not out to set any sort of record just wanna get it as high as i can safely without screwing with my voltages too much. As far as the 2600+ goes, well this is the reading i was getting from PCProbe if its not accurate my bad, but im gonna make an educated guess and say that it read the speed as that high because there is an AthlonXP 2600+ that runs a 266 fsb and im running at a 324fsb i know that 1.874 isnt 2600+ speed, but then 324 fsb isnt the 266fsb speed athlon xp 2600s have either(this is provided its not the 2600 chip that runs the 333fsb). Now im not saying this bench is entirely accurate but if its not i am goign to have to say that maybe this FSB deal is the reason. BTW Winter cool to hear your having such luck with you 2100 rev b i heard they can get wicked overclocks, hehe if i woulda known the OC bug was gonna hit me i woulda bought one of them, btw what graphics card you running