200 pentium server/firewall?

perlmonger

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OK here is the queston, I have an old pentium 200 lying around and wondered if there was some good use for it? I wondered if I could put a couple nics in it and use it for a firewall or router or something. I am currently setting up a wireless internet connection through a new local ISP and thought there might be some way to use this old pentium to share the internet between a couple computers and maybe provide some firewall protection. I don't expect detailed instructions from you guys but a feasability opinion and/or some rough layout ideas would be helpful.
Thanks in advance
 

Fritzo

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Well, we're using a P-100 at our company as a file server. It has two 80 GB SCSI drives in it that hold everyone's home directories. A P-200 is still a pretty useful machine. It will work fine as a gateway or a firewall (heck, a 486 could do that). You could also make it an MP3 server, an FTP server, or whatever else you can think of.
 

n0cmonkey

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Its probably a little powerful for a firewall, but Ill be upgrading my p133 to a ppro 200 firewall soon.
 

perlmonger

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Anyone have links to tutorials, articles, how to sort of information? I don't really know what to do but I just can't retire this old box. I've been using it for 6 years or so....I'm kinda attached to it.
 

Shadow07

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I have been looking for a good custom Linux firewall package, and I have found a few.

1. Wolverine Beta 1/Alpha 3 - I like this little 15MB package (yes, that is MB and not a typo). It is based on the 2.4.18 Linux kernel, and has great PPTP VPN support. In it's current build, it can only send authentication to a RADIUS server. So, if you have a Windows NT or 2000 Server (along with the NT 4 Option Pack) you already have a RADIUS server. It does not have any support for an IDS like SNORT or PRELUDE. I do believe the developer is going to add support for this, but this addition would take up more space. He is also working on a WIN32 admin GUI (non-Web based) along with a Linux GUI of course. If you are at all familuar with the Cisco PIX IOS, then configuring this firewall/VPN router will be easy.

2. IPCop v0.1.1 - This custom distro is based on the Smoothwall v0.9.9 release, and it is only 2.2.21RC1. This distro is also based on IPCHAINS. The web interface is quite nice, but needs additional work. I have tried to use the web interface to configure rules with out success. I had to SSH into the device, and configure most of what I wanted at the command line. Though I do want to learn IPCHAINS and other Linux administrative tasks, this is not ideal for those that are newbies. The Email list for IPCop is a good source for help. If you cannot find it in the DOCs or HOW-TO's, you should be able to get it from them. It also has some good add-on packages, like zebra for instance.

3. MandrakeSoft Single Network Firewall 7.2 - A relatively good package for those single network SOHO locations. It has a great web interface that you can configure virtually anything you want. It has SNORT and PREDLUDE (in Beta form) installed on it. But, don't expect to use this one out of the box on a network that has multiple routed segments. I tried to download and install zebra in RPM format for Red Hat, and it would not install. It does come with routed and gated, but routed would not start nor work for me.

I am using both Wolverine and IPCop. I use Wolverine because of the PPTP support and the ease of getting a VPN server up and running. I use IPCop only becuase of the packages that I can install, and because it is stable and works after you install it.

For those that are a Linux Newbie and you don't know how to use IPCHAINS/IPTABLES or you don't know how networking really works, then I would recommend SNF 7.2 from Mandrake. Those that do know what they are doing, either Wolverine or IPCop.

BTW, my IPCop machine is a PIII 650MHz with 256MB RAM. Yes I know that this is an overkill, but I do want the best performance for my firewall. Wolverine is running on an older PII 266 with 256MB of RAM. The entire OS runs in RAM, so it runs VERY quick.

Let me know if you have any questions on this.

 

vash

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I remember reading somewhere that all of ID software's T1 was served via a 486 and Linux. Maybe it was an older Pentium, but I was pretty sure they mentioned a 486. It was used a LONG time before they upgraded to some "real" hardware.

vash
 

Goosemaster

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How will clarkconnect fair on a p75?

I was using smoothwall, but someone needed to borrow one of my nics and htey never gave it back:frown:
When I bought another nic, I could never again get it working correctly. I checked the nics and they were fine...


But my question is this...how friendly is Clarkconnect's Webadmin prog? Smoothwall's was very good in my opinion...


Does this one offer such an easy-to-use interface...what I mean is , is it all graphical when you log on as a client? java support ssh?


thanks
 

Goosemaster

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For your information, I do have a lot of machines, and was even temporarily trying out smoothwall on a pII333 but I was wondering If I could get away with this..

I also have a p166mx, but that machine is well, nasty....
 

Goosemaster

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then there is the burbie
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But I want to save on the elec. bill


Right now I have:

-1800 XP workstation(has scsi HD and stuff)
-1GHz thunderbird Workstation(has scsi HD and stuff too)
-700mhz mandrake 8.2 fileserver/webser/test machine through VNC
-SMC router
-Cable modem


and the list goes on....


These are expensive bills my parents are getting...don't want them to very well ban me from using comps.


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vash

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
then there is the burbie
rolleye.gif


But I want to save on the elec. bill

Right now I have:

-1800 XP workstation(has scsi HD and stuff)
-1GHz thunderbird Workstation(has scsi HD and stuff too)
-700mhz mandrake 8.2 fileserver/webser/test machine through VNC
-SMC router
-Cable modem

and the list goes on....

These are expensive bills my parents are getting...don't want them to very well ban me from using comps.


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If you want to help to help your parents save on the bill, keep the machines on to as few as possible. If you are hosting a FTP or webserver, keep only that machine on, along with the router and cable modem. I have 5 machines at home and only one is 24/7 and that's the one with the FTP/web, etc. The rest go to sleep at night.

vash
 

Iron Woode

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Freesco is all you need, baby!

It does it all. Webserver/printserver/DNS/DHCP/NAT/Firewall/Router, etc...