$200 GeForce Ti 4200?

[shadowofthesun]

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I was google searching for a cheap AGP graphics card for a friend (ie. < $50) to replace his ailing Matrox G450. (Probably going to get a 7100 or 6200) I was searching backwards in generations (Decided to skip FX, and surprisingly Radeon 9xxx series cards still sell for alot) when I stumbled upon the GeForce 4 generation- and saw these GeForce 4200 Ti's running for 200 dollars. Am I missing something, or do people actually fork out 200 bucks for a card that's not only 4 generations old, but was pretty low-range when new?

 

[moosey]

I was wondering the same thing when I saw socket A Barton core Athlon processors going for $180+ on ebay. No clue

 

[Arkaign]

That is expensive, I do take exception to the claim that Ti4200 was low-range when new. The GF4 Ti series beat 9700 to market by a decent margin, and you could o/c the 4200 to 4600 levels, which was the fastest thing on the market at the time I had a LeadTek 4200 that sat in my pc for quite some time Great stuff. You can still play a lot of games on it, like Enemy Territory, WoW, etc. Ah vell

 

[imhungry]

I still have one in this computer and still occasionally game with it. Works fine.

 

[geepondy]

Hey come on, I recall I paid about $200 for my TI 4200. It's still going strong in second pc.

 

[moosey]

Originally posted by: geepondy
Hey come on, I recall I paid about $200 for my TI 4200. It's still going strong in second pc.

when was that, around 2002 I'm hoping..lol.

Yeah I had one of those also, I think I got one for around $160 or so. It was one of the Gainward Golden Sample models.

 

[Lanyap]

You found some old listings where the cards for $200 are out of stock.

 

[VanTheMan]

There are definitely computer stores around who still charge exorbitant prices for several generation old hardware. They get away with it and it's a shame that they take advantage of people who don't know anything about hardware. I went to one store around here last year with a friend and they had 256MB PC100 chips for like $60-70.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
That is expensive, I do take exception to the claim that Ti4200 was low-range when new. The GF4 Ti series beat 9700 to market by a decent margin, and you could o/c the 4200 to 4600 levels, which was the fastest thing on the market at the time I had a LeadTek 4200 that sat in my pc for quite some time Great stuff. You can still play a lot of games on it, like Enemy Territory, WoW, etc. Ah vell

It didn't matter to ATI anyway...once the 9700 pro came out, it pretty much made anything that Nvidia had at the time look pathetic....I don't know of too many G4 TI's that can still run new games with reasonable performance at 1024x768.

 

[TheRealMrGrey]

I had a Gainward Ti4200 as well, good card at the time (I think it was back in 2002 that I bought it - or was it 2001?). Or I should say, it was a good card when it finally worked. It shipped with all kinds of shady graphics problems (including multi-colored screen of death), I sent it back to Gainward and they sent me a new one that worked well...for 1.5 years, and then died. I will never buy from that company again, if you can't make a product last longer than that, you are doing something wrong.

Edit: that's when I decided to give ATI and Sapphire a try, and have liked them ever since.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: TheRealMrGrey
I had a Gainward Ti4200 as well, good card at the time (I think it was back in 2002 that I bought it - or was it 2001?). Or I should say, it was a good card when it finally worked. It shipped with all kinds of shady graphics problems (including multi-colored screen of death), I sent it back to Gainward and they sent me a new one that worked well...for 1.5 years, and then died. I will never buy from that company again, if you can't make a product last longer than that, you are doing something wrong.

Edit: that's when I decided to give ATI and Sapphire a try, and have liked them ever since.

:Q This is weird. I had the SAME Gainward Ti4200 card with the SAME problems. But wait. I replaced it with a Sapphire 9700! :Q Weird. Were you following me or something?

 

[TheRealMrGrey]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
:Q This is weird. I had the SAME Gainward Ti4200 card with the SAME problems. But wait. I replaced it with a Sapphire 9700! :Q Weird. Were you following me or something?

Almost, except I replaced my Ti4200 with a 9600xt.

 

[SolMiester]

Originally posted by: moosey

Originally posted by: geepondy
Hey come on, I recall I paid about $200 for my TI 4200. It's still going strong in second pc.

when was that, around 2002 I'm hoping..lol.

Yeah I had one of those also, I think I got one for around $160 or so. It was one of the Gainward Golden Sample models.

I had the Gainward GS Ti4600, what bliss!

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: Stumps

Originally posted by: Arkaign
That is expensive, I do take exception to the claim that Ti4200 was low-range when new. The GF4 Ti series beat 9700 to market by a decent margin, and you could o/c the 4200 to 4600 levels, which was the fastest thing on the market at the time I had a LeadTek 4200 that sat in my pc for quite some time Great stuff. You can still play a lot of games on it, like Enemy Territory, WoW, etc. Ah vell

It didn't matter to ATI anyway...once the 9700 pro came out, it pretty much made anything that Nvidia had at the time look pathetic....I don't know of too many G4 TI's that can still run new games with reasonable performance at 1024x768.

Well, the biggest issue is that the Geforce 4 TIs are only Dx8 and can't a lot of newer games period regardless of performance.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Ive seen a pentium4 EE 3.2ghz for socket 478 still sell for $999.

This aint nothing new.

 

[imported_Kiwi]

Anyone who either missed buying during that time period might mistake the numbering scheme for something similar to what ATI started using, but compared to the FXes, the "bottom" GF4 Titanium would've fit at 5750, and the 4600 would be a 5900. I don't know why the 9500 / 9700 pair didn't wipe up the market back then, but I suspect ATI was slow getting good drivers out while the GF4 Ti cards did have good drivers. It was the 9600 and 9800 cards from ATI that really dominated nVidia's products, and competed mostly against the sorry FXes.

About a year ago, the overstocks and surplus sellers had plenty of new Ti-4200 cards to sell, and you could find them for $25- $35, but those seemed to sell out quickly, and it was back to even older MX 200 and MX 400 cards in that market. The worst bad examples of old components still selling too dearly are those FX cards. The 5900 and 5950 cards, based on their original $299 and up MSRPs, are still selling for over $150, when they are worth no more, really, than those Ti-4200s had been, since their Dx9 hardware is literally broken.