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BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
It's ok, im 22 and just finally got my AA degree. I have no clue on what to do for a BA degree. It seems like all of my friends just got their 4 year degrees and they are my age. They all know what they are doing for careers or have good jobs already. I don't even have a job and have no worthwhile experience. Oh yeah and ive never had a gf. Life ****** blows :(


YES! THERE I AM! Lets be friends.
 

BlancoNino

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I'm thinking about doing some independant studying on computer programming on the side. It will keep me busy and make me happy knowing I'm doing something extra plus I've got a couple friends who are willing to lend a hand in it.
 

Dubb

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oh come on. no way is 20 the 1/4 point in your life...everybody knows the polar ice caps are going to melt in 15 years and everyone will drown.

so at least get it straight. this is your 4/7 life crisis.
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: aswedc
If it's not ok to be in school for 6 years, I guess I better kill my plans to work as a TA and get my masters degree. Hell, I'm cutting it pretty close at my 5 year plan to finish undergraduate, but maybe that's because I'm getting two degrees. Buddy, maybe someone should explain to you how a loan works for school. It's a loan. i.e. YOU PAY IT BACK, plus interest, once you becom a "contributing member of society." You should probably look up this word "leech" before you accuse someone of doing it, first for spelling then again for definition.
Hey look, the spelling nazi is calling me a grump :roll: ;)

Maybe someone should explain to you the purpose of an education loan. It's not so you can spend as long as you want enjoying college. It's so people who can't afford college can go.

I'm sure the not so fortunate are happy you could spend five years in school and get your two degrees, while because of over borrowing their yearly limit for federal stafford loans is $3,500 as a dependent undergraduate - barely enough to cover the cheapest of public schools.

Not to mention that two bachelors degrees will never pay off financially, and you've cost yourself dozens of thousands of dollars in extra loans, interest, and lost income...I hope it was worth it!

PS. Unless you're engineering or science, you shouldn't even be in school for four years. I finished in under three, and that was taking summer breaks too!

Edit PPS. I actually don't care that much. It's your life, do what you want. It's just that my roommate is a complete bum that doesn't have a high school diploma, won't get a GED, and barely pays rent while going into debt with me and my other roommate for food and bills. It pisses me off ;)

Alright, I'll start by saying I don't think anyone would disagree with your "Edit PPS." But I also think that's something quite apart from this whole discussion, I'm sure you agree.

Listen, man- Don't talk to me about limits on Stafford loans. Stafford is one of three different loans I have out right now to attend school, and yes, it's small. School's damned expensive, most people (including myself) cannot afford it without multiple loans. You know what happens when Stafford won't cover it? You take out another loan. You apply for need-based financial aid. You apply for scholarships. You work a job or two. Funny, that's what I did!

I take out loans. I pay my bills. I work a job. I apply for scholarships. I'm going to school, taking the maximum number of credit hours (19) allowed by the university, and have been every semester since my freshmen year. I'm getting degrees and certification so I can go make something of myself. You think I'm just "floating around, having a good time?" Stop being a dick, seriously.

PS-what school did you get your bachelor of engineering/science(?) degree from in 4 semesters?
 

aswedc

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I take out loans. I pay my bills. I work a job. I apply for scholarships. I'm going to school, taking the maximum number of credit hours (19) allowed by the university, and have been every semester since my freshmen year. I'm getting degrees and certification so I can go make something of myself. Stop being a dick, seriously.
Ok :)

Your situation isn't really what I was originally trying to talk about.

A lot of people stay in school, because the loans come easy, and it's fun, and you don't have to worry about stuff until later. They don't want to take a couple hours and think seriously about their future.

The solution to not knowing where you're going in life isn't to sit around and wait, or even complain about it on ATOT. That's what I do think is just stupid and shortsited.

PS-what school did you get your bachelor of engineering/science(?) degree from in 4 semesters?
I didn't. I meant, a BS in engineering or science can realistically be completed in four years. A BS in business or liberal arts can realistically be completed in three years or less, which is what I did.
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: aswedc
I take out loans. I pay my bills. I work a job. I apply for scholarships. I'm going to school, taking the maximum number of credit hours (19) allowed by the university, and have been every semester since my freshmen year. I'm getting degrees and certification so I can go make something of myself. Stop being a dick, seriously.
Ok :)

Your situation isn't really what I was originally trying to talk about.

A lot of people stay in school, because the loans come easy, and it's fun, and you don't have to worry about stuff until later. They don't want to take a couple hours and think seriously about their future.

The solution to not knowing where you're going in life isn't to sit around and wait, or even complain about it on ATOT. That's what I do think is just stupid and shortsited.

PS-what school did you get your bachelor of engineering/science(?) degree from in 4 semesters?
I didn't. I meant, a BS in engineering or science can realistically be completed in four years. A BS in business or liberal arts can realistically be completed in three years or less, which is what I did.

What degree/school?

You're recanting now, after criticizing my desicion to pursue two related degrees, and criticizing the OP for going to school and working but not being sure what specific career path he wants to choose yet. You make all these accusations of people like us, saying that we're "leeching" off the government, acting all high and mighty that you got some(?) degree in 4 semesters. You say we should just spend "a couple hours" (what a ridiculous notion) figuring out our futures.

Am I getting defensive? Yes. But you've made some pretty condascending statements, while assuming a lot. Some of us aren't ready to rush desicions and processes, just so we can hurry up and be miserable with a career/life we hate. It's a hell of a lot better to find your niche now than decide when you're 40 that you should've done something else. If that means taking out a couple more loans (which I will pay back plus interest ;)) and/or staying an extra couple semesters, I think it's worth it.
 

aswedc

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What degree/school?

You're recanting now, after criticizing my desicion to pursue two related degrees, and criticizing the OP for going to school and working but not being sure what specific career path he wants to choose yet. You make all these accusations of people like us, saying that we're "leeching" off the government, acting all high and mighty that you got some(?) degree in 4 semesters. You say we should just spend "a couple hours" (what a ridiculous notion) figuring out our futures.
Meh, I'm not so sure about posting too much info on myself online. But I'll say that I got an undergraduate degree from a more or less completely unknown school, and was accepted to graduate programs at Temple, Drexel, and Auburn.

I already took back my statements about you, I'm not sure what else you want.

And, no, I still don't think it's a good idea to sit on it and hope lightning strikes and finds you a career while collecting debt. Volunteer in some fields you think you might like if you have to. Just get your life moving. At worst, you'll have an undergraduate degree in a field you're no longer interested in and have to go to year of graduate school, or a year to finish another degree. As we can see from the OP and others, not doing so doesn't exactly make you very confident about yourself either.

Oh, and if you don't know the kind of people I'm talking about - the kind that are avoiding education/career decision making just because they don't want to have to face it - I guess we know completely different types of people. Because I know a lot!