20 People Injured In Stabbing At Pennsylvania High School

[emperus]

Hope no one dies. :'(

That's the thought most sane people had. Others thought about how to turn this into a debate about gun rights.

And again, each of these students have a chance to survive and had a chance to fight back. If it were a gun, would we be saying that?

 

[AViking]

Because that's not logical.

What is logical, is training some of the teachers to carry in order to responsibly deal with situations like this.

I totally agree. We need our teachers armed. We need them trained to take out children. More guns in schools! More guns!

 

[Newell Steamer]

All it would've taken is one teacher and a well-placed round to put the attacker down.

You modern proggies keep on tugging each other off while ignoring the glaringly obvious facts of the situation.

Like all that death that was prevented at Fort Hood, right?

 

[OCGuy]

Yay another Gun Free Zone atrocity.

 

[HomerJS]

Because that's not logical.

What is logical, is training some of the teachers to carry in order to responsibly deal with situations like this.

That's the problem with you nutter gun grabbers, your attitude in this post is why ANY bill touching gun rights gets shot down. You people are incapable of making logical decisions or arguments, or reasonable changes to the way we do things.


Thank goodness mainstream america isn't falling for this modern progressive BS.

Why isn't it logical??

There are states that allow kids as young as 12 to own guns.
There are states that allows people to carry guns in bars.

Why is that illogical? It's a high school. I'll grant you illogical for an elementary school.

 

[emperus]

Btw.. Only 8 people were injured by the stabber. The rest when trying to flee.

Seven teenagers and an adult were taken to Forbes Regional Hospital, Dr. Chris Kauffman, the trauma director there, told NBC News. The seven were stabbed in the chest, back and abdomen, he said. He characterized some of the injuries as life-threatening but said everyone was expected to live.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Like all that death was prevented at Fort Hood, right?

You think banning guns would've stopped that?

I mean let's just say (and this will never, ever happen..) that you somehow do ban all guns.

You think that will stop some psycho? They will move to homemade bombs, or air dispersed chemicals, or whatever else.


Crazy people will always find a way. You gun grabber nutters have this broken mental viewpoint where you think regulating law-abiding citizens will in turn stop these people. It won't.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Btw.. Only 8 people were injured by the stabber. The rest when trying to flee.

Rabbid pro-gun logic: if everyone was tyring to flee, then those 12 would not have been hurt.

 

[Newell Steamer]

You think banning guns would've stopped that?

I mean let's just say (and this will never, ever happen..) that you somehow do ban all guns.

You think that will stop some psycho? They will move to homemade bombs, or air dispersed chemicals, or whatever else.


Crazy people will always find a way. You gun grabber nutters have this broken mental viewpoint where you think regulating law-abiding citizens will in turn stop these people. It won't.

You still not address what you proposed (which does not work); arming everyone will prevent such attacks.

They do not.

And, the attacks, by crazy people, on military complexes proves just that.

 

[emperus]

Yay another Gun Free Zone atrocity.

I think most of the regular gun nuts in this forum are lunatics.

The argument you guys are making is that because we can't control all instruments that crazy people use to kill people with we shouldn't try to control those that cause the most damage in the least amount of time when crazy people use them to try to kill people.

Think about that logic applied to other things.

 

[WackyDan]

If those 20 people had knives as well - this could NEVER have happened.

Like shooting rampages at military complexes,.. they don't happen, because of the availability of weapons and armed personnel.

Not sure if you are being serious? Military bases are some of the least armed places in this country.

 

[emperus]

You anti-gun fanatics are just too much. I love laughing at your antics while wearing my concealed carry firearm at my place of work!!

You can spin a story like this any which way you want to. I'll say that if the teacher/administrators where carrying, then there would have been less than 20 people stabbed and we would have one dead son-of-a-bitch attacker which is ok with me.



Is this supposed to be sarcasm?? A waiting period on kitchen knives?? That is such a stupid statement that it doesn't even garner a response.

Wait, you have a gun at your place of work? Wow. What liability. I assume you don't work anywhere where it is required people wear shirts to work.

 

[AViking]

SA's logic is flawless. All teachers should be trained to be expert marksman and psychologically trained to kill children. For $26,000 a year. Makes total sense. It's actually quite brilliant and I can't believe we haven't combined the profession of sharpshooter with high school teacher before.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

You still not address what you proposed (which does not work); arming everyone will prevent such attacks.

They do not.

And, the attacks, by crazy people, on military complexes proves just that.

Where have I said everyone should be armed? Plenty of nutters such as yourself should not be allowed anywhere near a gun. You don't have the responsbility or maturity for it.


I think everyone, barring mental/federal convictions/issues/etc, should have the CHOICE to be armed. Big difference. And society, our laws, our court systems all agree with me.

 

[WackyDan]

Like all that death that was prevented at Fort Hood, right?

Now I know you were being serious before.

I've been on two bases already this year, one army and one navy. Unless you want to count the armed details manning points of entry, there are little if any armed presence on base that you can see. Even our soldiers living on base have stricter rules to follow than if they are outside of base and generally can't carry on base... They certainly don't have in their possession the weapons they are trained to fight with. Those are locked up in an armory and only in their hands when training or deployed.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Not sure if you are being serious? Military bases are some of the least armed places in this country.

Are they more armed than a school? Or a place of commerical business (like an office)?

Not everyone may be armed, like in a police station,... but there are more folks walking around with some sort of weapon on them, no?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

SA's logic is flawless. All teachers should be trained to be expert marksman and psychologically trained to kill children. For $26,000 a year. Makes total sense. It's actually quite brilliant and I can't believe we haven't combined the profession of sharpshooter with high school teacher before.

I never said all.

You nutters need to at least try to have an honest argument, this isn't a discussion over your latest boardgame with your neckbeard buddies.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Now I know you were being serious before.

I've been on two bases already this year, one army and one navy. Unless you want to count the armed details manning points of entry, there are little if any armed presence on base that you can see. Even our soldiers living on base have stricter rules to follow than if they are outside of base and generally can't carry on base... They certainly don't have in their possession the weapons they are trained to fight with. Those are locked up in an armory and only in their hands when training or deployed.

Watch out, the gun grabber nutters are going to start with the personal attacks now that their illogical arguments are falling apart.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Now I know you were being serious before.

I've been on two bases already this year, one army and one navy. Unless you want to count the armed details manning points of entry, there are little if any armed presence on base that you can see. Even our soldiers living on base have stricter rules to follow than if they are outside of base and generally can't carry on base... They certainly don't have in their possession the weapons they are trained to fight with. Those are locked up in an armory and only in their hands when training or deployed.

Ok.

So, there are more points of armed individuals, than say a school.

SpatiallyAware wants teachers armed. Or, some sort of amred individual(s) on schools. Point being, that even with folks like that,.. you still can't prevent a crazy person from going around killing people.

 

[agfkfhahddhdn]

I have no clue how messed up in the head you have to be to hear about children being stabbed/shot/murdered and immediately co-opt it for your gun rights debate.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Watch out, the gun grabber nutters are going to start with the personal attacks now that their illogical arguments are falling apart.

Oh the irony.

 

[AViking]

SA arm the teachers and the first person to die will simply be the teacher. Arm the students and we've gone Lord of the Flies. Pick your poison.

 

[OCGuy]

I think most of the regular gun nuts in this forum are lunatics.

The argument you guys are making is that because we can't control all instruments that crazy people use to kill people with we shouldn't try to control those that cause the most damage in the least amount of time when crazy people use them to try to kill people.

Think about that logic applied to other things.

Congratulations for using two of the most juvenile logical fallacies in one post.

The best part about making up your opponent's argument yourself, is that you can always defeat it. Amiright?

You know you are in AT P&N when the only two sides possible here are give 3rd graders RPGs, or expel them for making gun noises and pointing their fingers.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I have no clue how messed up in the head you have to be to hear about children being stabbed/shot/murdered and immediately co-opt it for your gun rights debate.

No different than the gun grabbers to go on huge campaigns every time there's a shooting.

Funny thing is, any city/state that has this happen sees a huge surge in gun sales. These people actual help the firearm industry. I love the irony.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

SA arm the teachers and the first person to die will simply be the teacher. Arm the students and we've gone Lord of the Flies. Pick your poison.

How about arm a random 1/10 of the teachers. Let them nominate themselves so we don't have people like emp carrying a gun. People with former firearm experience are at the front of the list.