----- 2-Xeon's or 1 Dual Core Xeon ??

[thatsright]

Getting a new SQL server (SQL 2000 or 2005 Enterprise on Windows 2003), and for CPU wondering which is better for the server:

1-Dual Core Xeon 2.8Ghz /2mb cache each core or
2- Xeon 3.8Ghz /2mb cache each CPU.

Opteron is not an option now. If you had to buy the Windows/SQL server, which would you, go for?

Thanks

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Well you have uneven chips there. The 2 CPU Xeon at 3.8 would smash a single Xeon at 2.8. The Dual core chip would have to be at 3.8 as well to equal out. So as of now, go with the two 3.8 chips. But youd still be better off with an Opteron.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

2-Xeon 3.8. They each have HT, so it helps that much more. And yes, I know HT isn't as effective as DC, but it does help. What mobo are you going with?

 

[Cooler]

DC xeons are $1000 a pop so 400 for HT one is not bad.

 

[ND40oz]

Originally posted by: thatsright
Getting a new SQL server (SQL 2000 or 2005 Enterprise on Windows 2003), and for CPU wondering which is better for the server:

1-Dual Core Xeon 2.8Ghz /2mb cache each core or
2- Xeon 3.8Ghz /2mb cache each CPU.

Opteron is not an option now. If you had to buy the Windows/SQL server, which would you, go for?

Thanks

I had the same option, went with the higher speed single core chips, no regrets. We actually stepped up/down to the 8mb cache 3.0 GHz single core chips. DL580s ftw.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: thatsright
Getting a new SQL server (SQL 2000 or 2005 Enterprise on Windows 2003), and for CPU wondering which is better for the server:

1-Dual Core Xeon 2.8Ghz /2mb cache each core or
2- Xeon 3.8Ghz /2mb cache each CPU.

Opteron is not an option now. If you had to buy the Windows/SQL server, which would you, go for?

Thanks

This is for work, I'm guessing?

 

[thatsright]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Originally posted by: thatsright
Getting a new SQL server (SQL 2000 or 2005 Enterprise on Windows 2003), and for CPU wondering which is better for the server:

1-Dual Core Xeon 2.8Ghz /2mb cache each core or
2- Xeon 3.8Ghz /2mb cache each CPU.

Opteron is not an option now. If you had to buy the Windows/SQL server, which would you, go for?

Thanks

This is for work, I'm guessing?

Si

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: thatsright

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo

Originally posted by: thatsright
Getting a new SQL server (SQL 2000 or 2005 Enterprise on Windows 2003), and for CPU wondering which is better for the server:

1-Dual Core Xeon 2.8Ghz /2mb cache each core or
2- Xeon 3.8Ghz /2mb cache each CPU.

Opteron is not an option now. If you had to buy the Windows/SQL server, which would you, go for?

Thanks

This is for work, I'm guessing?

Si

Must be nice. I've got POS P4 Dell machines at work with 256mb RAM running win 2k, and a dual Xeon server at home. hehehehe. I wish they would let me work at home. LOL

 

[thatsright]

As for the Opteron, that is my first choice. But its hard to find a Opteron from HP or IBM that is relativly same price as what I would get from Dell with a Xeon. To get the same Opteron system would cost at least $2,000 more from HP.

I really, really want a opteron, but its a bit pricey.

 

[ND40oz]

Originally posted by: thatsright
As for the Opteron, that is my first choice. But its hard to find a Opteron from HP or IBM that is relativly same price as what I would get from Dell with a Xeon. To get the same Opteron system would cost at least $2,000 more from HP.

I really, really want a opteron, but its a bit pricey.

Really? We just bought 6 DL385s with 2 Opteron 280s in each and they were a couple hundred bucks cheaper then the DL380s with 2 dual core 2.8 gig xeons. What HP models are you looking at?

 

[Cooler]

also dual core will make the cpu will be memory starved as they share single FSB but if you get two each will have their own FSB.

 

[thatsright]

Originally posted by: ND40oz

Originally posted by: thatsright
As for the Opteron, that is my first choice. But its hard to find a Opteron from HP or IBM that is relativly same price as what I would get from Dell with a Xeon. To get the same Opteron system would cost at least $2,000 more from HP.

I really, really want a opteron, but its a bit pricey.

Really? We just bought 6 DL385s with 2 Opteron 280s in each and they were a couple hundred bucks cheaper then the DL380s with 2 dual core 2.8 gig xeons. What HP models are you looking at?

The DL385. I meant that a similarly configured HP DL385 Opteron dual core server, vs. a Dell 2850 with a Xeon dual core, the HP Opteron server cost about $1-2k more than the Dell 2850

Did you guys get a bit of a discount since you were ordering 6 HP high-end servers? Did you request a quote or use the online ordering?

Thanks

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: Cooler
also dual core will make the cpu will be memory starved as they share single FSB but if you get two each will have their own FSB.

Thats not neccesairly true, I belive only the newest Xeon platform has dual FSB, the rest still share a FSB.

 

[ND40oz]

Originally posted by: thatsright

Originally posted by: ND40oz

Originally posted by: thatsright
As for the Opteron, that is my first choice. But its hard to find a Opteron from HP or IBM that is relativly same price as what I would get from Dell with a Xeon. To get the same Opteron system would cost at least $2,000 more from HP.

I really, really want a opteron, but its a bit pricey.

Really? We just bought 6 DL385s with 2 Opteron 280s in each and they were a couple hundred bucks cheaper then the DL380s with 2 dual core 2.8 gig xeons. What HP models are you looking at?

The DL385. I meant that a similarly configured HP DL385 Opteron dual core server, vs. a Dell 2850 with a Xeon dual core, the HP Opteron server cost about $1-2k more than the Dell 2850

Did you guys get a bit of a discount since you were ordering 6 HP high-end servers? Did you request a quote or use the online ordering?

Thanks

We request quotes through HP directly through a rep. We got identical quotes on dual 254 systems, dual 280 systems, dual 3.8 (or 3.6 whichever is the highest hp offers) xeon and dual dual core 2.8 xeon systems. All were within a couple hundred of each other. We specked out the memory identically (4 1 gig sticks so we could run numa on the opteron boxes, amd ddr and intel ddr2) with 6 146 gig 10k scsi drives and the write back cache enabler.

If you do go hp, I strongly recommend getting the write back cache enabler, it helps disk performance (which you'll need on a sql box) and it's really not to expensive in the big scheme of things.

I haven't looked at dells offerings lately, but you'll most likely get a better deal on an intel system through them because of their "exclusive" discounts.

 

[kiIIxthexIights]

duel core.