2 x OCZ Vertex 4 256GB in Raid 0

reynoldsjrmy

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Hi,

I haven't posted over here that often but I thought folks would like to see what can be achieved with two of OCZ's latest Vertex 4 SSDs running in a P67 rig.

I am an SSD enthusiast but this is the first mega fast SSD based Raid 0 that I have implemented. There's no going back for me now :)

First an AS SSD -

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and an Atto -

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This was running using an Asus P8P67 with a Core I7-2700k @ 4800MHz and Intel RST 11.0.

Regds, JR
 

fastman

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Did you do this for the benchmarks or are you running this in realworld scenario's?
If the latter, how do you like it?
 

reynoldsjrmy

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Hi fastman,

I think the honest answer to your first question is - yes and yes :)

The answer to your second question -

Is it snappy as a boot drive? - yep, it bites my hand off every time I click the mouse

I'm an FPS gamer and I enjoy trying to make good videos - it is awesome in both these use cases.

Regds, JR
 

fastman

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Hi fastman,

I think the honest answer to your first question is - yes and yes :)

The answer to your second question -

Is it snappy as a boot drive? - yep, it bites my hand off every time I click the mouse

I'm an FPS gamer and I enjoy trying to make good videos - it is awesome in both these use cases.

Regds, JR

What controler are you using? Do you have TRIM on that MB with RAID?
 

reynoldsjrmy

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Hi fastman,

I'm using the two native Intel Sata III ports on my P8P67.

As far as I am aware, no trim passthrough is available on RAID as yet, but the garbage collection functionality on the V4 seems very effective at maintaining performance (though I'm still in the process of getting to know if I need to leave my rig idling to faciliate GC (and, if so, for how long and what frequency))

Regds, JR
 
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Coup27

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These TRIM enabled under RAID RST drivers which allegedly have been released twice already (previous thread on this forum) are looking like the emperor's new clothes to me.
 

Burner27

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These TRIM enabled under RAID RST drivers which allegedly have been released twice already (previous thread on this forum) are looking like the emperor's new clothes to me.

You still need the 11.0 or 11.5 ORom for your board AND the 11.5 RST driver for TRIM to work for RAID drives. It's looking like many of the P67 based mobos will NOT see this BIOS update and a new board will be needed for those who will not get the update from there mobo manufacturers.
 

reynoldsjrmy

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You still need the 11.0 or 11.5 ORom for your board AND the 11.5 RST driver for TRIM to work for RAID drives. It's looking like many of the P67 based mobos will NOT see this BIOS update and a new board will be needed for those who will not get the update from there mobo manufacturers.

Interesting. I hope the 11.x Oroms are supported by Z77 mobos. This plus PCI 3 would be enough for me to upgrade my mobo.

Regds, JR
 

Burner27

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Interesting. I hope the 11.x Oroms are supported by Z77 mobos. This plus PCI 3 would be enough for me to upgrade my mobo.

Regds, JR

I believe (from what I have been reading) that some H67, all Z68, all X79, and all Z77 boards will get the ORom update to support TRIM for RAIDs.
 

slow_poke

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These TRIM enabled under RAID RST drivers which allegedly have been released twice already (previous thread on this forum) are looking like the emperor's new clothes to me.

There is no trim in R0 yet. The release notes from the two 11.5 alphas clearly stated that these drivers did not enable trim under R0.
 

Blades

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Its a big deal when I write a huge file to my laptop's drives. Usually I just use usb 3.0.. I keep them pretty much 88%+ free space and occasionally run freespacecleaner.. and then let the garbage collection do its thing.. Which supposedly works at idle.. It sort of defeats the whole purpose of having these, doesn't? No... the reason I went with RAID 0 is to avoid the bluescreens and bullshit I was dealing with on a single drive.. Not a very great solution, but a fast one, regardless..

Hell, I even played Deus Ex off my USB 3.0 flash drive.. which was great, since its a Patriot SuperSonic Magnum? Whatever the long name is, the transfer rates are equiv to a SSD!
 

Coup27

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There is no trim in R0 yet. The release notes from the two 11.5 alphas clearly stated that these drivers did not enable trim under R0.
I have not read the release notes but if this is the case then what is the point? I doubt many people use 2 SSD's in RAID1 or multiple SSDs in RAID5 or whatever else. The main clamour for these drivers are from people who stick 2 SSDs in RAID0.
 

Blades

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RAID 1 is easier to have trim implemented because both drives have the same data. RAID 0, not so much... The FS can have files that are deleted that are not exactly deleted until the space on the drive that the aforementioned deleted files occupy is overwritten by newer files... SSDs don't understand this.. if a nand cell has data, it has data.. until the firmware tells it that it doesn't have data.. Meaning... there is no such thing as an overwrite command in SSDland.. There is only write/read/delete. I'm pretty sure thats the way it goes.. but the TRIM command is from the OS to the controller.. telling it to tell the firmware to flag the nand cells as 0.. I'm sure I'm missing pieces of how this works.. But its like realtime freespace cleaning.. marking files deleted as truly unallocated space (0)..