2 new Intel CPU series: Q8000 and E5000

[AshPhoenix]

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[VirtualLarry]

Strange. That map shows that the X38/X48 supports Celeron 1xxx dual-core C2D, but NOT Celeron 4xx single-core C2D. Very strange.

So is the E5000 series replacing the E4000 series or the E2000 series? I'm just wondering at what price-point these are going to appear, seeing as the E7000 series is already around the pricing of the E4000 series. So if the E5000 is going to replace the E2000 series price points, that sounds like a good thing. I wonder if they will clock up to 4Ghz? With a 200Mhz FSB, these should be some overclocking MONSTERS.

 

[jones377]

ack, why oh why give the Q8000 a 1333MHz FSB? They could have been nice to us overclockers and give it 1066 or lower...

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: jones377
ack, why oh why give the Q8000 a 1333MHz FSB? They could have been nice to us overclockers and give it 1066 or lower...

So what? It has an 8X multiplier and quite about every P35 mobo can do 500 mhz fsb right now. So as long as the chip handles, we'll be able to take it very far with good cooling and ram.
Let's hope that it's not going to cost a fortune.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: error8
So what? It has an 8X multiplier and quite about every P35 mobo can do 500 mhz fsb right now.

Not with quad-cores, man. Most good P35 boards won't go much at all over 450 FSB, with quads.

 

[Foxery]

Snipped from a breakdown at The Inquirer:

the Q8000 looks like a stripped-down Q9300 core, differing solely on cache, ie: 45nm, 4MB cache, 1333MHz FSB, VT and TXT.

The E5000 series dual core sits at the top of the order in the value segment, most likely a successor/shrink to the E4000 series as they have the same cache and FSB and differ in fabrication process alone, ie: 45nm, 2MB cache, 800MHz FSB.

The E5000 series makes sense as a pure die-shrink of the budget line. I'm baffled why they're bothering with yet another tier of low-cache quads, when the Q9300 and upcoming Q9400 already fit this category. The only selling point for E8000s will be extremely low price... but I can't imagine the performance being worthwhile for apps which actually tax 4 CPUs.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Foxery
Snipped from a breakdown at The Inquirer:

the Q8000 looks like a stripped-down Q9300 core, differing solely on cache, ie: 45nm, 4MB cache, 1333MHz FSB, VT and TXT.

The E5000 series dual core sits at the top of the order in the value segment, most likely a successor/shrink to the E4000 series as they have the same cache and FSB and differ in fabrication process alone, ie: 45nm, 2MB cache, 800MHz FSB.

The E5000 series makes sense as a pure die-shrink of the budget line. I'm baffled why they're bothering with yet another tier of low-cache quads, when the Q9300 and upcoming Q9400 already fit this category. The only selling point for E8000s will be extremely low price... but I can't imagine the performance being worthwhile for apps which actually tax 4 CPUs.

The Q9300 is EOL soon isnt it?

And the E5000 series would seem to be new E2XXX series. The 45nm CPUs have twice the cache available by design.

 

[nyker96]

where are the E5xxx getting introduced?

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: error8
So what? It has an 8X multiplier and quite about every P35 mobo can do 500 mhz fsb right now.

Not with quad-cores, man. Most good P35 boards won't go much at all over 450 FSB, with quads.

Well 3,6 ghz is not that bad either. :laugh:

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: error8
So what? It has an 8X multiplier and quite about every P35 mobo can do 500 mhz fsb right now.

Not with quad-cores, man. Most good P35 boards won't go much at all over 450 FSB, with quads.

Well 3,6 ghz is not that bad either. :laugh:

depends on who your talking to.

3.6ghz to me means i give the chip away and grab another one.

 

[ELopes580]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: error8
So what? It has an 8X multiplier and quite about every P35 mobo can do 500 mhz fsb right now.

Not with quad-cores, man. Most good P35 boards won't go much at all over 450 FSB, with quads.

Well 3,6 ghz is not that bad either. :laugh:

depends on who your talking to.

3.6ghz to me means i give the chip away and grab another one.

I got dibs on your next freebie chip that "only" does 3.6GHz.

 

[rickyman123]

when is the E5xxx cpu comes out? also do you need to update the bios if you buy e5xxx cpu or not?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: ELopes580

I got dibs on your next freebie chip that "only" does 3.6GHz.

Your gonna need to bring a AR-10 then. The last time i offered a chip, my cousins all got into a big brawl on who got the Q6600 B3. :X

 

[Foxery]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
The Q9300 is EOL soon isnt it?

Yes, but why produce a whole new series of chip instead of reducing the price on this one? At the same time, they're releasing a Q9400 which will be completely alone in its design, the way Q9300 is now.

It's very strange marketing strategy to require such frequent changes to their production line.

And the E5000 series would seem to be new E2XXX series. The 45nm CPUs have twice the cache available by design.

E5000 directly replaces E4000, as both have 2MB L2 cache. The E2000 series has 1MB. (If it were replaced, they'd fill in with the number 3000.)

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Foxery
E5000 directly replaces E4000, as both have 2MB L2 cache. The E2000 series has 1MB. (If it were replaced, they'd fill in with the number 3000.)

Then where's the E6000's direct replacement with 4MB of cache? Thus far all the new tiers have gotten considerable boosts in cache over the tiers they are replacing.

E6000 (4MB cache) -> E8000 (6MB cache)
E4000 (2MB cache) -> E7000 (3MB cache)
E2000 (1MB cache) -> E5000 (2MB cache)

The common thought was that there would be an E3000 series with 1.5MB cache (considering each replacement has thus far received 'only' a 50% increase) but it looks like intel has shaken things up a bit. I seriously doubt that intel is going to introduce yet another tier considering they're already working with 4. If they do introduce an E3000 series it would most likely be to replace their E1000 Celerons.

 

[demiurge3141]

i had high hopes for e5xxx! 45nm for $70? happy times are a-coming!

 

[ZOXXO]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: error8
So what? It has an 8X multiplier and quite about every P35 mobo can do 500 mhz fsb right now.

Not with quad-cores, man. Most good P35 boards won't go much at all over 450 FSB, with quads.

Well 3,6 ghz is not that bad either. :laugh:

depends on who your talking to.

3.6ghz to me means i give the chip away and grab another one.

So you got your Phenom rig over 3.6ghz?

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: error8
So what? It has an 8X multiplier and quite about every P35 mobo can do 500 mhz fsb right now.

Not with quad-cores, man. Most good P35 boards won't go much at all over 450 FSB, with quads.

Well 3,6 ghz is not that bad either. :laugh:

depends on who your talking to.

3.6ghz to me means i give the chip away and grab another one.

you are a bad person

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: ELopes580

I got dibs on your next freebie chip that "only" does 3.6GHz.

Your gonna need to bring a AR-10 then. The last time i offered a chip, my cousins all got into a big brawl on who got the Q6600 B3. :X

Step 1: Offer cousins high end cpu...
Step 2: Fight ensures
Step 3: ......
Step 4: Profit!

To me it might be worth $140 or so to watch my cousins beat the crap out of each other.

 

[ELopes580]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: ELopes580

I got dibs on your next freebie chip that "only" does 3.6GHz.

Your gonna need to bring a AR-10 then. The last time i offered a chip, my cousins all got into a big brawl on who got the Q6600 B3. :X

Step 1: Offer cousins high end cpu...
Step 2: Fight ensures, record on video
Step 3: ......
Step 4: Post on youtube for everyone on AT to see
Step 5: Profit!

To me it might be worth $140 or so to watch my cousins beat the crap out of each other.

 

[rickyman123]

when is the new cpu "E5xxx" come out to public? so i can buy one?

 

[NoobyDoo]

what is the multi of the e5200 ?

TechConnect Magazine - Intel E5000 series to put an end to E2000s

Lacking VT and TXT, the E5000 CPUs will have a FSB of 800 MHz and an L2 cache of 2MB, one third that of the already released Wolfdale dual-core parts. Featuring a 65W TDP and a frequency of 2.5 GHz, the first E5000 CPU will be dubbed E5200. This one will come in Q3 and cost about $84 (in 1000-unit tray quantities).

Edit :
12.5 seems unlikely. More likely the fsb is 1066. Then in q3 we would have :

e5200 - 2mb/9.5x at $84
e7200 - 3mb/9.5x at $113
e7300 - 3mb/10.0x at $133.

Just as the e2xxx and 4xxx had the same fsb.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: NoobyDoo
what is the multi of the e5200 ?

TechConnect Magazine - Intel E5000 series to put an end to E2000s

Lacking VT and TXT, the E5000 CPUs will have a FSB of 800 MHz and an L2 cache of 2MB, one third that of the already released Wolfdale dual-core parts. Featuring a 65W TDP and a frequency of 2.5 GHz, the first E5000 CPU will be dubbed E5200. This one will come in Q3 and cost about $84 (in 1000-unit tray quantities).

Edit :
12.5 seems unlikely. More likely the fsb is 1066. Then in q3 we would have :

e5200 - 2mb/9.5x at $84
e7200 - 3mb/9.5x at $113
e7300 - 3mb/10.0x at $133.

Just as the e2xxx and 4xxx had the same fsb.

Why would 12.5 be unlikely? These are 45nm chips we are talking about - they have half-multis. Intel intentionally keeps the FSB low on the value chips for marketing reasons.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Does anyone think that the Q8000 and the E5000 series might be the new 45nm "allendale" series? Ie. the core die only has 2MB or 4MB of cache to begin with, instead of 6MB?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: ZOXXO

So you got your Phenom rig over 3.6ghz?

no, erinyes doesnt count in that listing. :[

Dont pick on her. She's sensitive around my other quads.

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Step 1: Offer cousins high end cpu...
Step 2: Fight ensures
Step 3: ......
Step 4: Profit!

To me it might be worth $140 or so to watch my cousins beat the crap out of each other.

actually i got in trouble last year, because they stopped talking to each other because of it.

I think when i start retiring my G0 quads, which will be soon when neha comes out, im gonna lotto my g0's.

They will seriously kill each other over a gaurentee 3.6+ghz clocking quad. :X


Anyhow i still think the best bang for the buck chip is the E7X00. In all benchmarks shown, if clocked simular to a E8X00 series, they perform slightly slower.

Slightly Slower to most people = unoticible in almost every ground.

And they all show to have good overclocking.