2 Israeli soldiers killed in Hamas ambush thanks to Obama

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Noobtastic

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Please do not refer to the USA as "our nation". You've made it abundantly clear that you hate the USA and love only Israel, so I can only conclude that you are here by an accident of geography and birth and are still too young to leave. The USA is no more your country than it is Nidal Malik Hassan's country. Since you have clearly selected Israel as your country, it is not appropriate for you to claim the USA whilst bashing her at every breath.

When you get old enough, the Israeli Embassy will help you with relocation costs and paperwork. Best of luck to you there - and G_dspeed.

Care to respond to my post?

USA is my country. I was born in the USA and am a citizen of the USA. Does that mean I cannot criticize the USA? Israel is the world's punching bag. Can you not take an Israeli-styled beating?

Why do you accuse me of being an agent of Israel for stating the obvious??

I call a spade a spade. America has killed millions. America has sponsored terror organizations in Latin America. America continues to sponsor terror organizations like al-Fatah and anti-Taliban forces (that behave exactly like the Taliban) in Afghanistan.

Do you disagree? I don't hate America. I like it a lot. But I'm not going to lie and neither should you. The whole reason we are in this mess is because of the constant USA-exceptionalism.

Americans need to understand there is a reason why Europe hates us and its because we fucking interfere in everyone's business.

As far as Israel goes, I think it is unfairly treated by USA and the world. I would be pissed off if Israel was bossing the USA around and was sponsoring enemies that harmed my civilians. I'd be fuckin pissed as hell.

And I'm pissed that Obama has more love for our enemies than our allies. He refuses to sell new Apache helicopters to Israel because of concern for the Palestinians, yet has no problem selling apaches to Egypt even though they've blown up dozens of tunnels this year and killed 100+ since 2008.

Hell, just yesterday 4 were wounded. Probably more, but we'll never know:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=172202

I admire Israel because it is a righteous country. It fights enemies that pose a threat to its existence and have harmed its civilians. We fight enemies that pose no threat to our existence, and kill thousands of innocence while doing this.

Then we condemn Israel for doing things we do on a minutely basis.

How does this not bother anyone? Does it not make you upset that we are killing thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan for nothing? It sickens me.
 

ShawnD1

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And I'm pissed that Obama has more love for our enemies than our allies. He refuses to sell new Apache helicopters to Israel because of concern for the Palestinians, yet has no problem selling apaches to Egypt even though they've blown up dozens of tunnels this year and killed 100+ since 2008.

Hell, just yesterday 4 were wounded. Probably more, but we'll never know:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=172202

Your link says this
Egypt blows up smuggling tunnel; 4 wounded
By JPOST.COM STAFF
01/04/2010 02:27


Egypt blew up yet another smuggling tunnel leading into Gaza on Wednesday night, Israel Radio reported

What's wrong with this? Generally smuggling tunnels are bad.
 

Sacrilege

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Your link says this


What's wrong with this? Generally smuggling tunnels are bad.

Because Egypt did it, it is a laudable act of counter-smuggling. But if Israel had done it, there would have been an international uproar about the "siege" of the "Palestinians."

Get with the pogrom.... err.... program.
 

Ozoned

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Care to respond to my post?

USA is my country. I was born in the USA and am a citizen of the USA. Does that mean I cannot criticize the USA? Israel is the world's punching bag. Can you not take an Israeli-styled beating?

Why do you accuse me of being an agent of Israel for stating the obvious??

I call a spade a spade. America has killed millions. America has sponsored terror organizations in Latin America. America continues to sponsor terror organizations like al-Fatah and anti-Taliban forces (that behave exactly like the Taliban) in Afghanistan.

Do you disagree? I don't hate America. I like it a lot. But I'm not going to lie and neither should you. The whole reason we are in this mess is because of the constant USA-exceptionalism.

Americans need to understand there is a reason why Europe hates us and its because we fucking interfere in everyone's business.

As far as Israel goes, I think it is unfairly treated by USA and the world. I would be pissed off if Israel was bossing the USA around and was sponsoring enemies that harmed my civilians. I'd be fuckin pissed as hell.

And I'm pissed that Obama has more love for our enemies than our allies. He refuses to sell new Apache helicopters to Israel because of concern for the Palestinians, yet has no problem selling apaches to Egypt even though they've blown up dozens of tunnels this year and killed 100+ since 2008.

Hell, just yesterday 4 were wounded. Probably more, but we'll never know:

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=172202

I admire Israel because it is a righteous country. It fights enemies that pose a threat to its existence and have harmed its civilians. We fight enemies that pose no threat to our existence, and kill thousands of innocence while doing this.

Then we condemn Israel for doing things we do on a minutely basis.

How does this not bother anyone? Does it not make you upset that we are killing thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan for nothing? It sickens me.

You DON'T understand the existential threat that Israel and the US share. Our foreign policy is purposeful, not blind.

Think of the 1947 partion plan as being strategic...
 

Noobtastic

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Because Egypt did it, it is a laudable act of counter-smuggling. But if Israel had done it, there would have been an international uproar about the "siege" of the "Palestinians."

Get with the pogrom.... err.... program.

Bingo.

No one condemns Lebanon for locking up their Palestinians in apartheid-like prison camps and refugee bases, but accuse Israel's government of being inspired by racism for daring to build a fence around its countries to deter suicide attacks.

Apparently Palestinian "freedom of movement" is more important than Israel's right to live without suicide attacks.

The UN secretary general and other leading members of have touring around all the Arab states and asking them to get "tough" on Israel over its "blockade" of Gaza.

Not once has the UN demanded Egypt to open its borders to Gaza, not once. But they demand Israel open up its borders even as Hamas plants explosives near Israeli border towns, frequently shoot at border police, and launch mortars and rockets into the country on a weekly basis.

So they expect Israel - the enemy - to expose its citizens to violence, while Egypt - a "friend" of the Palestinians - doesn't have to do shit.

And whenvever Israel does do something, it is condemned for it being "not enough." Israel dubiously allowed the shipment of materials that could re-build destroyed homes during the Gaza conflict. Even though this could easily be seized by the Gaza government to build more rockets.

The UN, instead of applauding Israel, say it isn't enough and should do more. Then Israel unfreezes Gaza bank accounts (500 million ISI, or 150 million USD), and that too isn't enough.

Ban Ki moon travels to Gaza and holds hands with Hamas and says, "We are with you!!!"

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=171419

Of course, he doesn't condemn Hamas price-fixing goods on tunnels (100 million a month) or extorting Palestinian business, or locking up journalists who dare to tell the truth instead of towing the Pallywood script as BBC does.

And yet here WE are, bombing the shit out of Afghanistan, killing more than 500 a month (probably more). Our puppet governments in Iraq and Afghanistan are shit. Endless violence, poor conditions.

But in Gaza and the West Bank, 75+ life expectancy. world record holders in humanitarian aid.

Israel subsidies its enemies and yet it is condemned, while we can't even control the governments that WE support unconditionally.

36 billion into Iraq a year and it is still a shithole. Gaza is under a blockade and its economy and standard of living is still better per-capita wise than Iraq's.

Anyways, if America was being sandbagged like Israel I'm sure posters here would be turning cars and protesting.