2 F-14 Tomcats vs 5 F-5's (Mig 28)

[jtvang125]

As much as I love the Tomcat there's just no way 2 of them can defeat 5 F-5's. 2 vs 3 maybe if they're really good but not 5.

 

[Proletariat]

Topgun?

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Wtf are you talking about? What is a Mig 28? Are you making this all up or do you know ANYTHING?

 

[Taggart]

If the 2 F14's have Phoenix missiles then hell yeah they can take out 5 F5's.

 

[So]

F5!

And why is it that people with the Azndude avatar seem to come up with the most idiotic topics? I'm not trying to comment on asians, just people who use that avatar. It's like ricemarine started a cult or something...

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Taggart
If the 2 F14's have Phoenix missiles then hell yeah they can take out 5 F5's.

QFT

 

[jtvang125]

Originally posted by: LordSegan
Wtf are you talking about? What is a Mig 28? Are you making this all up or do you know ANYTHING?

I know they don't exist. This was in reference to Top Gun which they purposely changed the identity of the F-5 to Mig 28.

 

[Sphexi]

Ah, I see what you're talking about now. Those weren't F-5's though, they were T-38's.

 

[MasterAndCommander]

One should have been enough

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: jtvang125

Originally posted by: LordSegan
Wtf are you talking about? What is a Mig 28? Are you making this all up or do you know ANYTHING?

I know they don't exist. This was in reference to Top Gun which they purposely changed the identity of the F-5 to Mig 28.

Haha everyone in this thread is an idiot if your right.

 

[jtvang125]

Originally posted by: Taggart
If the 2 F14's have Phoenix missiles then hell yeah they can take out 5 F5's.

Possibly but IIRC the Phoenix missiles never saw any real combat so you can't be sure how well they'll perform.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Sphexi
Ah, I see what you're talking about now. Those weren't F-5's though, they were T-38's.

no, they were F5s. The T-38 is the two-seat trainer verison.

 

[Bootprint]

Originally posted by: Taggart
If the 2 F14's have Phoenix missiles then hell yeah they can take out 5 F5's.

The Phoenix missle isn't very good against fighters, it was made to take bombers out at long range.

 

[jtvang125]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: Sphexi
Ah, I see what you're talking about now. Those weren't F-5's though, they were T-38's.

no, they were F5s. The T-38 is the two-seat trainer verison.

I think so too cause the fake Mig 28 in the movie was a single seat and the T-38 is a two seat plane.

 

[Zim Hosein]

Airwolf > *

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Bootprint

Originally posted by: Taggart
If the 2 F14's have Phoenix missiles then hell yeah they can take out 5 F5's.

The Phoenix missle isn't very good against fighters, it was made to take bombers out at long range.

it was ecellent at any long-range air to air mission. It was NOT a good close-in weapon, but thats what the AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-7 Sparrow are for.

Incidentally, the Phoenix was retired a couple of years ago.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: Sphexi
Ah, I see what you're talking about now. Those weren't F-5's though, they were T-38's.

no, they were F5s. The T-38 is the two-seat trainer verison.

Yup, those were F5. I made the same statement in another thread about Top Gun a few weeks ago.

 

[ed21x]

The f-5 tigersharks are pretty ancient aircrafts, made to dominate those small, twisting dogfights. The f-14 was developed with the first long range bvr missiles, and of course had aim-7, and later on, early versions of the aim9 missiles. So yeah, once the aircrafts get too close, the superior maneuverability of the f-5 will destroy the f-14, but at far distances, the f-14 was developed to house a huge radar and get the first initial lock. The US has been following this doctrine ever since.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: ed21x
The f-5 tigersharks are pretty ancient aircrafts, made to dominate those small, twisting dogfights. The f-14 was developed with the first long range bvr missiles, and of course had aim-7, and later on, early versions of the aim9 missiles. So yeah, once the aircrafts get too close, the superior maneuverability of the f-5 will destroy the f-14, but at far distances, the f-14 was developed to house a huge radar and get the first initial lock. The US has been following this doctrine ever since.

HEs talking about Top Gun smart guy.

That was an up close dog fight.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: ed21x
The f-5 tigersharks are pretty ancient aircrafts, made to dominate those small, twisting dogfights. The f-14 was developed with the first long range bvr missiles, and of course had aim-7, and later on, early versions of the aim9 missiles. So yeah, once the aircrafts get too close, the superior maneuverability of the f-5 will destroy the f-14, but at far distances, the f-14 was developed to house a huge radar and get the first initial lock. The US has been following this doctrine ever since.

HEs talking about Top Gun smart guy.

That was an up close dog fight.

actually a lot of that action took place at missile range (20-50 miles) It is deceiving, since a jet will cover that distance in a matter of a few seconds

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: jtvang125
As much as I love the Tomcat there's just no way 2 of them can defeat 5 F-5's. 2 vs 3 maybe if they're really good but not 5.

No way dude!

You can do a flyby of your carrier and take one of them out, so you're down to 4. The other 3 will fall prey to your rapid pitch-up and stall technique, and the last one you can fly inverted above his cockpit and give him the finger, eliminating him.

 

[YoshiSato]

Originally posted by: Taggart
If the 2 F14's have Phoenix missiles then hell yeah they can take out 5 F5's.

Actually the Phoneix missles was only designed to take down bombers. It is not manuverable enough and costed to much. That is why it was mothballed.

I used to think the same thing untill I got chewed out by some Air Force types.
Although I think they were bias because they love the F22 and think the F14's time has passed

 

[Goosemaster]

maverick could be flying a plane full of rubber dog sh!t to Hong Kong and he'd still be dangerous against a mig28....


..assuming that he was inverted

 

[Bootprint]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: jtvang125
As much as I love the Tomcat there's just no way 2 of them can defeat 5 F-5's. 2 vs 3 maybe if they're really good but not 5.

No way dude!

You can do a flyby of your carrier and take one of them out, so you're down to 4. The other 3 will fall prey to your rapid pitch-up and stall technique, and the last one you can fly inverted above his cockpit and give him the finger, eliminating him.

forget giving the finger, a good GIB would've mooned

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Bootprint

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: jtvang125
As much as I love the Tomcat there's just no way 2 of them can defeat 5 F-5's. 2 vs 3 maybe if they're really good but not 5.

No way dude!

You can do a flyby of your carrier and take one of them out, so you're down to 4. The other 3 will fall prey to your rapid pitch-up and stall technique, and the last one you can fly inverted above his cockpit and give him the finger, eliminating him.

forget giving the finger, a good GIB would've mooned

AHAHAHAHA